PS3 not so expensive for what you get?

[DragonBlaze]

New they'll probably be $50.

Right now, a 64 mb xbox 360 memory card is $40.

If you think about it, a ps1 memory card was 512 kb, a ps2 was 8 mb, meaning it increase 16x. If you increase the ps2 memory card by 16x you'll need 128 mbs.

I haven't cared to check the prices on a memory card cuz i really don't plan to use them if it has a hard drive, but they're goign to be pretty expensive.

[SaiKar]

I think I may be done with console systems entirely.

I was a SNES fanboy. Best games ever made, right there! So I got a N64, which totally flopped in comparison to the PS1. It had about 10 games I actually liked, though the games I liked I REALLY LIKED A LOT. So when PS2 vs Gamecube came around, I thought, hell. I'll get a Gamecube.

I have about 6 games I like for the GC, and only two I really really like, and they're both RPGs anyway (Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia) So the system was a pretty expensive waste for me realy.

So we got Wii and PS3 now. Ugh.

I'm not giving Nintendo another chance after the Gamecube. They're just going too kiddy for me. They ruined Mario Kart already. Nintendo's whole "we want games that a parent can walk in on, say 'oh that looks like fun', and jump right in." WHY WOULD I WANT TO PLAY A GAME THAT REQUIRES NO SKILL WHATSOEVER TO PLAY! Where's the fun in playing anything that mind-blowingly easy? Go to hell, Nintendo! No third chance.

On the OTHER SIDE, we have PS3 and it's inevitable gazillion game lineup, it's huge amounts of detail, and it's acompanying pricetag. $600?! Man... if I'm paying that much for a system, it better be hand delivered to my house. In a helecopter. By the actual people that served as character models for the games. And to all of you people thinking that more memory = longer games with more graphics and detail, you're right. The only small concern is that someone has to actually PROGRAM all that stuff. Notice how some games these days are getting delayed months or an entire year? Game makers promise so much and it takes serious amount of manpower to deliver it. Expect longer and longer delays and more time between games with that kind of detail. It can barely be helped really.

Maybe I'm just getting too old for video games... I dunno. But these two options suck. I guess I'll stick with PC stuff.

[Tomi]

Amen, Harvey.  The older stuff seems better to me anyways..

[Raen Ryong]

Right, although I do love the Playstation series, I am able to recognise the pros and cons of each console.

Wii

Pros
- Low price
- Large selection of popular characters
- Innovative ideas

Cons
- Venturing into using a new controller
- Games generally seen as "kiddish"
- Games lack originality (Zelda-esque cliché storylines, etc)
- Lower specs

Ps3

Pros
- Popular games, such as Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid
- Massive disc capacity
- Brilliant specs
- Retaining old, successful controller design

Cons
- Unrealistically high price for most people
- Very reliant on new technology

Despite the fact the Ps3 has less cons (in my opinion), that price one is a massive concern. I think the Wii's sales will fare much better to begin with, and then the Ps3 will be forced to lower its price in order to compete, THEN the sales will increase.

Also, you Wii-people accuse Sony of being arrogant (which is probably true, I'm sad to say), but you're the ones who are being arrogant and accusing all those who defend the Ps3 as fanboys. Hypocrisy?

[Osmose]

I'd like to ask all supporters of the PS3 to not take Apex as an example of fans of the Wii.

Word to Tomi. Spore negates the need for any new console.

[coasterkrazy]

Originally posted by Raen Ryong
Cons
- Venturing into using a new controller

In case you didn't know, they made a regular controller as well for people who don't like the remote idea. I'd say it negates that con...

[DarkFlood2]

The gamecube games being "kiddish"? You are sorely mistaken.
Have you ever taken a look at all of the RE games on the GC (I think there are 6 or 7 including the remakes), Then you have the awesome Metroid Prime series, And let us not forget that most of the Metal Gear games came from nintendo or were ported to it. Kiddish? I think not. Plus there are others that I haven't mentioned.

Here is a link to one of the demos to show the Wii's innovation
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4564724544164436570&q=Metroid+prime+corruption
(that boss fight at the end looks interesting..)

And here is a link to one of the trailers to show the PS3's graphical capabilities
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6718009720752146055&q=PS3
(Sure it's pretty, but is it worth it?)

And lastly, here is a comparison of the graphics we have seen at E3 on the Wii (playable demo) and the PS3 (Pre-rendered movie)

[aboutasoandthis]

Which reminds me, did I say the small PS3 has a new controller too? It has a round button in the middle, the R2 and L2 buttons are now triggers, and I think you can have a little bit of motion sensory in it (no where near as good as the Wii or the big PS3.)

Why does everyone keep saying $600 dollars?

[Razor]

Better than that, you can still use the Gamecube controllers. Which means, Zelda will equal hazaar. Brawl will equal super hazaar, and I wonder when the next Mario Kart will be released.


Anyway, have any of you even looked at the E3 stats? IIRC the line for the Wii was like 6 hours long. That's a ****ing long wait, just to play a console.

Especially if the Xbo and the P3 are supposed to be better.  


But anyway, people who say the wiimote sucks clearly want to have a reason to bag the Wii, and they don't even consider the fact the controller probably won't even be used that much. Consider all the DS games that don't use the stylus for example.

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

You are contrasting smash and mgs? WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL ARE YOU?!

[DarkFlood2]

Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
You are contrasting smash and mgs? WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL ARE YOU?!

A crafty one :p

Here is my consensus:

Nintendo's Wii: For people who don't care about maturity and just want to have fun (like me)
Sony's Playstation 3: For people who are rich, or graphics whores.
Microsoft's Xbox360: For people who want Halo 3 (also like me)

[Razor]

Originally posted by DarkFlood2
Nintendo's Wii: For people who don't care about maturity and just want to have fun (like me)
Sony's Playstation 3: For people who are rich, or graphics whores.
Microsoft's Xbox360: For people who want Halo 3 (also like me)

I agree, end of thread. lol

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by Razor

quote:

Originally posted by DarkFlood2 Nintendo's Wii: For people who don't care about maturity and just want to have fun (like me) Sony's Playstation 3: For people who are rich, or graphics whores. Microsoft's Xbox360: For people who want Halo 3 (also like me)

I agree, end of thread. lol

I so "Word" You.

[GaryCXJk]

Okay, let me show you how fanboyish some here are. First, from the Dis-Sony side:

I don't need the Blu-Ray discs, they are completely utterly useless. Who needs the storage anyway?
First of all, the first type of Blu-Ray discs have "only" a storage capacity of 25 GB. This is when it only has one layer. However, the Blu-Ray can also have two layers, which makes a total of 50 GB. Only recently there is a six-layered Blu-Ray disc with 33 GB per layer, making a total of 200 GB.

So, if the developers want to stay cheap, they could cram their crap onto a 25 GB Blu-Ray. But surely the XBox 360 can match it with its HD-DVD support? No, not game-wise anyway. The thing is, the XBox 360 only has HD-DVD support for movies, not for games. This already has been stated. It currently just uses the normal DVD format and the dual layer version.

What's the advantage of Blu-Ray, even with 25 GB? You can easily cram a lot of high-res models on it, and instead of the now commonly used 256x256 or even 1024x1024 textures for one model, they can work with multiple 1024x1024 textures for one model,giving it more detail per polygon. More polygons mean better graphics, and seeing as everybody now is graphic-whore, this is a good thing.

Also, now we can go with even better sound formats, almost cinema-like. This might not seem usefull to you, but say that to professional gamers. A good sound system can make a difference between killing or getting killed during online matches. Also, to give you a more thrilling experience, better sounds can help in giving you the right vibes.

And to top that, we can finally have a world large enough we can get lost in. Quite more literally than most RPGs nowadays. Without the use of labyrinths and dungeons.

We don't need that mumbo jumbo. Good graphics don't make gameplay.
I'll tell you something. Most people say that but don't actually act that way. When Red Steel was first announced people weren't that impressed by the graphics, even Nintendo fans. And they don't often prefer graphics over gameplay, so that says enough.

Subconciously you do take graphics in account when buying new games. It's plain stupid to say graphics don't matter, because they do.

About the question if it's really worth it, yes! Of course it is! People always wanted realism, and now they moan about it, just because they have to pay more for that? What did they expect? Hollywood for ten bucks?

Nintendo Wii has better games.
Says who? I've never played a Wii game before. I bet most of you don't too. You can't judge something when you haven't experienced it yet. Sony did show they had good games, and I bet that if people just ignore the PS3, they would miss out on a big deal of good games, just because they heard that the Wii had better games.

It's too expensive, Sony will never sell the console.
Remember the price of the original NES? $300 dollars. It did great. Remember the price of the original Playstation 2? I think it was around $600-800. It did excelent. I bet even the original Playstation was expensive. But they all did great. So why moan about the PS3? Sure, it costs $600, but that doesn't mean it won't sell. That doesn't mean it will drop its price later on?

The light version shows the PS3 is bullcrap. For $100 extra you just get 40 GB extra.
For your information, you not only get 40 GB extra, but also WiFi automatically enabled. It will also not support HDMI, which is not upgradable. What this means is that you can't view HD-quality on the light version.

Also, Europe will only have the 60 GB version.

PS3 only showed pre-rendered movies.
Prove me wrong, but some are clearly in-game. Even better, there have been in-game footage. They might not seem as good as the trailer, but Sony has until November. That's a long time, and they could probably manage to get the graphics in. It's like the Wii, the graphics now are crap, but that was due to the fact that Nintendo didn't release the full dev-kit.

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But the Sony front can also expect some comments, although not so much, because it seems like the roles has been turned, and it's not Sony who acts fanboyish.

The Wiimote just won't work. The DS didn't, so the Wiimote won't either.
Like I stated earlier, it's too early to judge now. You've never played the Wiimote. And to debunk the argument, several gaming reporters have reported that the Wiimote plays really well, although you'll need to get used to it at first you will manage to get the feel very quickly.

Also, the DS didn't fail, it did work. There are a lot of gimmicky games for the DS, but the ones who aren't did play nice with the DS.

Also, a lot of DS games don't even use the touch screen, and the same would probably happen with the Wii anyway, so what's the bother?

Sources: WikiPedia.org

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by GaryCXJk

We don't need that mumbo jumbo. Good graphics don't make gameplay.
...When Red Steel was first announced people weren't that impressed by the graphics, even Nintendo fans. And they don't often prefer graphics over gameplay, so that says enough.

[/B]

Are you supporting the negated statement by saying that?..