Scientists have suceeded in turning gay rams straight

[Daetyrnis]

Originally posted by elementalhero76
I agree with one and four. About 3 why then we use only the bible to srown in people i.e. the courts? Why not use the jewish torrah (old testament first five books) or the koran?

I asume srown is swear, if it is not, then please correct me.

That is only America, us Canadians don't do that, which is politically correct and does not discriminate against religion, as is laid out in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The flaws of the American legal courts means nothing for religion.

EDIT:  I noticed you didn't comment about 2, what is your opinion of that point?

[Moosetroop11]

Right... Last time I looked this was a topic on whether or not it was right, not whether or not the dudes who wrote the bible thought it was right...  

If you went back and got those clever people who wrote it, and brought them to our time, they wouldn't believe their moral stories had lasted so long.

I have mixed views on this anyway. An embryo doesn't know it's being turned straight, so is there a problem? Even if this does spread to humans, they won't be turning existing gays straight. If you grew up and then were told by your parents that you got altered, you wouldn't think "Oh god how could they? I could have been doing men and now I'm stuck with these breasted individuals and they cost a fortune!!!

[elementalhero76]

Originally posted by Daetyrnis

Originally posted by elementalhero76
I agree with one and four. About 3 why then we use only the bible to srown in people i.e. the courts? Why not use the jewish torrah (old testament first five books) or the koran?

I asume srown is swear, if it is not, then please correct me.

That is only America, us Canadians don't do that, which is politically correct and does not discriminate against religion, as is laid out in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The flaws of the American legal courts means nothing for religion.

EDIT:  I noticed you didn't comment about 2, what is your opinion of that point?[/B]

Lets not get into another rant about that one.

[Blue_Strife]

Originally posted by elementalhero76

Originally posted by Daetyrnis

Originally posted by elementalhero76
I agree with one and four. About 3 why then we use only the bible to srown in people i.e. the courts? Why not use the jewish torrah (old testament first five books) or the koran?

I asume srown is swear, if it is not, then please correct me.

That is only America, us Canadians don't do that, which is politically correct and does not discriminate against religion, as is laid out in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The flaws of the American legal courts means nothing for religion.

EDIT:  I noticed you didn't comment about 2, what is your opinion of that point?[/B]

Lets not get into another rant about that one.[/B]

Considering that's what the main topics about more or less... Yes, lets.

And despite whether or not it's a choice or hard coded, that still doesn't necessarily give us a right to tamper with it (Elitism, gene alteration, etc...).

[Trevlac]

There's no point in arguing with anyone on charas. They're all morons. The select few in this thread who have a brain were able to whoop out some serious pwnage on the morons. Let's just end it there. Morons never have a good comeback.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Daetyrnis
2. If you're against homosexuals, just stop.  It doesn't affect you, so why bother.  It is natural, otherwise homosexuality would not be present in animals other than humans.  Why should you care so much about what someone else does in bed?  It doesn't affect you.

That is such a perfectly good point I think it won the thread. It occurs naturally in nature, therefore its natural. Didn't "God" make nature?

Also, +1000 points to RotD.

Originally posted by elementalhero76
Lets not get into another rant about that one.

Opinions make the world a funner place. Hows about it?

[Osmose]

Enough, Trevlac. Even people you think are stupid deserve common respect, or at least your pity.

[Archem]

*pops eventually* How the hell is this thread still going on? Major fail right here. *departs*

[ZeroKirbyX]

It's funny how people get pissed off so easy. I stopped trying to have real arguments months ago, it's funnier to spout utter bullshit and see how many people get worked up.

[Weregnome]

Yesterday during my lunch break at work, I had an indepth conversation with two devoted christians. Its interesting to listen to people you feel strongly about their religion. By what they said, the holy bible's interrpretation is between you and God. What you read and interpret is for only you and God. It was also to interesitng to listen to them discuss ideas of hell etc and for them to give me a better understanding about what christian teachings a bullshit and what teachings are generally correct. Apparantly they were telling me that for a person to go to heaven, that believing only in the lord christ shopuld be enough to allow you into heaven. However, I think both had different opinions as one stated what I already said whilst the other said the only way to go to heaven is to be one with the holy spirit.

[MrMister]

Originally posted by Osmose
Enough, Trevlac. Even people you think are stupid deserve common respect, or at least your pity.

enough is enough, is enough is enough I can't go on I can't go on no more now

[ZeroKirbyX]

Originally posted by MrMister

Originally posted by Osmose
Enough, Trevlac. Even people you think are stupid deserve common respect, or at least your pity.

enough is enough, is enough is enough I can't go on I can't go on no more now[/B]

The world is not enough. But it is such a perfect place to start, my love. And if you're strong enough, together we can take the world apart my love.

[Smokey_locs2006]

Round 3... fight!


PS: I'm staying out of this one.

I'll just say this, gays don't feel bad. White people don't like the fact that I'm black and tried to cure me and called it slavery.
(Yeah I know, No Logic)



Yes the religious peeps don't approve of gays but you people must understand, it's all in how you look at it. Most people are just saying what they were told and in some way had someone shape their belief
for them. Lucky me I am not one of those people.

They say there's like what? 20,000 religions of whatever. I say their's as many religions as their is people on this earth.

Everyone has a different way of looking at something even if they arrive at the same answer even the other way around.

So in other words, let's all hold hands.








 

[Razor]

Originally posted by Smokey_locs2006
I'll just say this, gays don't feel bad. White people don't like the fact that I'm black and tried to cure me and called it slavery.

****, you've personally been enslaved? That's illegal you know. You should totally lawyer that place up.

[SoftCell]

The Sacred Band of Thebes (ancient Greek: Ιερός Λόχος τών Θηβών; ἱερὸς λόχος hieròs lókhos) was a troop of picked soldiers, numbering 150 homosexual couples, which formed the elite force of the Theban army in late-classical Greece. The reasoning behind the Sacred Band was that lovers would fight more fiercely and more cohesively at each other's sides than would strangers with no philadelphic bonds.

It was organized in 378 BC by the Theban commander Gorgidas. His inspiration, according to Plutarch (in his Life of Pelopidas[1]), came from Plato’s Symposium, wherein the character Phaedrus remarks:

And if there were only some way of contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their loves, they would be the very best governors of their own city, abstaining from all dishonour, and emulating one another in honour; and when fighting at each other's side, although a mere handful, they would overcome the world. For what lover would not choose rather to be seen by all mankind than by his beloved, either when abandoning his post or throwing away his arms? He would be ready to die a thousand deaths rather than endure this. Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger?

The Sacred Band originally was formed of picked men in couples, each lover with his beloved, selected from the ranks of the existing Theban citizen-army. They were housed and trained at the city’s expense.[3] During their early engagements, in an attempt to bolster a general morale, they were dispersed by their commander Gorgidas throughout the front ranks of the Theban army.

After the Theban general Pelopidas recaptured the acropolis of Thebes in 379 BC, he assumed command of the Sacred Band in which he fought alongside his good friend, Epaminondas. It was Pelopidas who formed these couples into a distinct unit: he “never separated or scattered them, but would stand [them with himself in] the brunt of battle, using them as one body.”[4] They became, in effect, the “crack” force of Greek soldiery [5], and the forty years of their known existence (378 – 338 BC) marked the pre-eminence of Thebes as a military and political power in late-classical Greece.


The Sacred Band under Pelopidas fought the Spartans in Tegyra, vanquishing an army that was at least three times their number. It was also responsible for the victory of Leuctra in 371 BC, called by Pausanias the most decisive battle ever fought by Greeks against Greeks. Leuctra established Theban independence from Spartan rule, and laid the groundwork for the expansion of Theban power, though possibly also for Philip II's eventual victory.


Defeat came at the Battle of Chaeronea (338 BC), the decisive contest in which Philip II of Macedon (with his son, Alexander the Great, as he would later be known) extinguished the authority of the Greek city-states. The traditional Greek hoplite infantry were no match for the novel long-speared Macedonian phalanx: the Theban army and its allies broke and fled, but the Sacred Band, though surrounded and overwhelmed, refused to surrender. They held their ground and fell where they stood. Plutarch records that upon encountering their corpses “heaped one upon another”, King Philip, understanding who they were, exclaimed:

"Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly."

Though Plutarch claims that all three hundred died that day, other writers[citation needed] claim that two hundred and fifty-four died and all the rest were wounded. That claim was substantiated upon the excavation of their communal grave at Chaeronea in the early 1800s[citation needed], in which two hundred and fifty-four skeletons were found, arranged in seven rows.[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_of_thebes

Alexander the Great may not have been the soldier he was if he was straight.