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« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2007, 04:27:02 AM »
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« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2007, 04:37:59 AM »
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that's completely stupid, but hilarious!  I genuinely hope you really don't think that! xD

Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.
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« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2007, 04:47:46 AM »
Your words are as empty as your prospects for sex. Mankind ill needs anyone such as you.

It had to be said.
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« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2007, 04:53:27 AM »
Dude you're ruining my awesome moment.
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« Reply #139 on: February 08, 2007, 07:00:52 AM »
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that's completely stupid, but hilarious!  I genuinely hope you really don't think that! xD

Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.[/B]



ah hahahaha, your hilarious.   _sweat_  this is the least appropriate time to use a quote like that. (that being, at a religious debate.)
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« Reply #140 on: February 08, 2007, 07:21:26 AM »
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like, dominic, except with icy instead of -ic. ;D


Why not, dominic with an -y?

edit: nice quote bug ~MrMister

edit 2: Sorry, didn't notice ~Drace
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« Reply #141 on: February 08, 2007, 08:23:46 AM »
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that's completely stupid, but hilarious!  I genuinely hope you really don't think that! xD

Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.[/B]



ah hahahaha, your hilarious.   _sweat_  this is the least appropriate time to use a quote like that. (that being, at a religious debate.)[/B]

But that's the sweetest thing - it's absolutely true. I could take what you said and use it against any religion, if I felt that way about said religion.
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« Reply #142 on: February 08, 2007, 02:07:17 PM »
I'mn afraid it's true Dominicy. Just because more people believe in 'Christianity' than in 'mace in the headism' doesn't make christianity any more likely. Hmmm... 'Mace in the headism' would explain a lot. But had the god and the scientist always existed Bluhman?

Expounding on Bluhman's mad scientist theory, what if someone in the future manages to make a time machine, but it goes horribly wrong and sucks the entire universe into the time portal and back to the beginning of the world, where all the matter is broken up into hydrogen molecules and the energy blasts it all outwards, thus forming the universe? Cycle-y.
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« Reply #143 on: February 08, 2007, 02:33:19 PM »
Well, about christianity, Jesus existed, that's a proven fact, but if he was a Holy man or not... that's something you have to work on your own.

There's no need to be mocking no one's ideas here, because it's turning into the old "religion vs science" bullshit.

Razor, Osmose, you can keep trying making fun of Dominicy (I SPELT IT RIGHT LOL), but his head won't change. He has his faith and he won't change it for scientific facts. The same goes to you Dominicy, you can't change Osmose's or Razor's ideas from night to morning.

They believe in whatever they believe. There's no need to separate science from metaphisic beliefs.

I see it this way: in old times, Church spreaded the belief that the Sun moved around the Earth. But not because of some stuff written in the Bible, it was just what they OBSERVED. What ANYONE observed in that moment. But they were proven wrong but true observation and facts.

Does it change the posibility of God's existance? Not at all, you can believe in God AND science, and you're not going to hell because of it.
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« Reply #144 on: February 08, 2007, 02:39:11 PM »
If there's a god, so what? If not, I guess people been wasting their sundays.

I myself believe there is no god. Such a thing is preposterous. Some giant figure hovering above us in la-la land? Where exactl yis heaven if it exists? In space? Ain't no air in space, dingus! But there is an Erin Space. :P Is there a hell? Beats me.
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« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2007, 03:59:53 PM »
There are a lot of religions out there, and all of them say, or at least imply, that if you are not a follower of that religion, then you are a heathen and are going to Hell. And since nobody is a follower of all faiths, we can say that everyone is going to Hell at some point.

That is, if there is a Hell. Which I doubt.

I'll simply fuel the existing debate by quoting the Hitchhiker's Guide.

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Now it is such a bizarrely impossible coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The arguement goes something like this:


"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," say Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promply vanishes in a puff of logic.
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« Reply #146 on: February 08, 2007, 05:15:11 PM »
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What kind of evolution do you believe in? Like mutation or the other one i forget what its called?

Are you perhaps referring to "punctuated equilibrium"?

If science does take "Faith", then it is simply a faith in evidence, and this is a faith that all mentally healthy people share.
Why do I bother eating? Because I know on personal evidence that I will be hungry if I do not, and I know on anecdotal evidence that going hungry for a long time is lethal.
If we are willing to sacrifice science, then we should also sacrifice any kind of reason or common sense that we have. This is not a defense of evolution or any kind of scientific idea, mind you. Like spike said, you may still interpret evidence in different ways.

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Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.

This reminds me of an anecdote involving an anthropologist having dinner with a christian friend. They spoke of an african tribe he was studying who believed that witches could detach their livers and send them flying into the night, sucking their enemy's blood. To which the christian said:
"Your job must be so difficult, when trying to understand why people believe such nonsensical things."
To which the anthtopologist replied:
"Not much more difficult than understanding why people believe a 2000 year old carpenter rose from the dead."
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« Reply #147 on: February 08, 2007, 08:24:26 PM »
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I'mn afraid it's true Dominicy. Just because more people believe in 'Christianity' than in 'mace in the headism' doesn't make christianity any more likely. Hmmm... 'Mace in the headism' would explain a lot. But had the god and the scientist always existed Bluhman?

Expounding on Bluhman's mad scientist theory, what if someone in the future manages to make a time machine, but it goes horribly wrong and sucks the entire universe into the time portal and back to the beginning of the world, where all the matter is broken up into hydrogen molecules and the energy blasts it all outwards, thus forming the universe? Cycle-y.


Now that you have said that, yes. It all makes sense now. Through inventing and using the time machine to return to the beginning of time, The mad Scientists managed to do two things.

1. He managed to make the big bang, from whence all the stars and dimensions in the universe originated from...

2. Through paradoxial corruption and scientific defication, the scientist became a cosmic deity.

Soon after the Mad Scientist met with the god, who actually, too, was created from the big bang, the Mad Scientist taught the god how to craft planets. Thanks to this mad scientist, the creation of planets started several million years earlier. After all the dead, lifeless planets in the universe were made, the god got bored and made earth. Using a mace, the Mad Scientist betrayed god and smacked his head in using a mace.

This smack in the head, of course, caused two things.

1. The symentanious creation of every single inate religion in the world.

2. The invention of the mace.

Mace-in-headists eventually managed to make the weapon that the scientist had used to kill the god. Seeing how often the mace was used in the middle ages, it was very obvious how influental Mace-in-headism had become, and since medieval europe was largely non-secular at the time, the time proved how effective Mace-in-headism was in fueling the Renaissance, and driving us into the future, where the mad scientist was born and went back to create the universe, every religion, and a very useful medieval weapon.
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« Reply #148 on: February 08, 2007, 08:38:38 PM »
... Science doesn't really take faith. Evolution does... So you say you believe in mutation. Over 80% of mutations are somatic and most are harm full. Lets say fruit flys for example, a fruit fly with 4 wings is worse of than one with 2. Because the 2 extra wings aren't attached to a muscle so they dissable it to fly.
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« Reply #149 on: February 08, 2007, 08:50:20 PM »
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I'mn afraid it's true Dominicy. Just because more people believe in 'Christianity' than in 'mace in the headism' doesn't make christianity any more likely. Hmmm... 'Mace in the headism' would explain a lot. But had the god and the scientist always existed Bluhman?

Expounding on Bluhman's mad scientist theory, what if someone in the future manages to make a time machine, but it goes horribly wrong and sucks the entire universe into the time portal and back to the beginning of the world, where all the matter is broken up into hydrogen molecules and the energy blasts it all outwards, thus forming the universe? Cycle-y.


Now that you have said that, yes. It all makes sense now. Through inventing and using the time machine to return to the beginning of time, The mad Scientists managed to do two things.

1. He managed to make the big bang, from whence all the stars and dimensions in the universe originated from...

2. Through paradoxial corruption and scientific defication, the scientist became a cosmic deity.

Soon after the Mad Scientist met with the god, who actually, too, was created from the big bang, the Mad Scientist taught the god how to craft planets. Thanks to this mad scientist, the creation of planets started several million years earlier. After all the dead, lifeless planets in the universe were made, the god got bored and made earth. Using a mace, the Mad Scientist betrayed god and smacked his head in using a mace.

This smack in the head, of course, caused two things.

1. The symentanious creation of every single inate religion in the world.

2. The invention of the mace.

Mace-in-headists eventually managed to make the weapon that the scientist had used to kill the god. Seeing how often the mace was used in the middle ages, it was very obvious how influental Mace-in-headism had become, and since medieval europe was largely non-secular at the time, the time proved how effective Mace-in-headism was in fueling the Renaissance, and driving us into the future, where the mad scientist was born and went back to create the universe, every religion, and a very useful medieval weapon.[/B]

First of all, according to modern science, time is not linear.  Time, or duration, is much the same as distance.  If you drew a line connecting two different points in time (each one being a different state of the universe), you've drawn a line through the fourth dimension.  Now, all the branches that extend towards and away from your current point in time are contained within the fifth dimension.  Long story short, even if scientists somehow destroyed the universe, that would only be in one specific timeline, and wouldn't necessarily affect us.  

Bluhman, the Big Bang did not create any dimensions, after all, dimensions aren't 'things'.  Our universe, and all of its possible states and endings, are contained within one point in the seventh dimension.

Modern science tells us that reality is created by obervation.  All particles are actually parts of waves, waves of quantum probability.  Once observed, a logical (well, it could be the illogical) history is "created" for that particle.  Heck, our universe could have been created by the act of observation two billion years ago, or two seconds ago.  The history would be created invluding memories, so we would only think we've existed for our lifetime, but in fact, were just created last minute.

The point of that is, is that if reality is only what you see, then theoritically we all create our own realities.  If your reality has a God, so be it.  If yours doesn't, so be it.

There, I both disproved and proved God's existence, using science.
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