Charas 3.0

[Cosmos]

I love you moose.  

[Glitch]

-Spoiler Tags
-Profile Option (For Hire) and page that displays all users for hire.
-[STRIKE]Merchandise[/STRIKE]
-Bigger Avatars
-[STRIKE]Disable post counts[/STRIKE]
-New Banner
-[STRIKE]Veteran user level awarded to good members - benefits[/STRIKE]
-Veteran user level awarded to donators
-Fool user level given to bad members - limits
-Global Mods have power to ban accounts (Or SiteMod level above Global Mod that has this power).
-Head Admin has power to ban IPs
-Temporary Ban ability (Set time for ban).
-Complete resources ranks (Most viewed, highest rank, etc)
-User groups. Used to give access to certain forums to certain people as well as other powers, IE: A group that can post to the front page news (For users who run contests but aren't mods), or a group that has access to the private forum but has no mod duties. Etc. Etc.
-Filter changes swear words to alternate words instead of *s.
-Option to turn filter off for self.
-Lowercase BBCode
- Post Preview Option


Meh. Though I do agree that Osmose didn't really earn his powers, I don't think this is just some kind of Blind Power Grab. Though I do still think the site should have some kind of Safe Guard against Admin/Mod abuse. I suggested re-election, you didn't like it, but you didn't give a different alternative. It's stupid of us to just wait around until someone does just start forcing changes on us.

[SaiKar]

Oh goody. I was afraid that my resignation would open to the floodgates to a lot of stupid and completely meaningless alliegations that I had somehow been able to keep down while being an admin. It's good to see that everyone is still gettin along.

Fact: Lowercase BBCode is so CLEARLY a grand stepping stone in Moose's bid for ultimate power. Mein fuhrer indeed!

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No, but seriously, what the crap Trevlac? I mean, I guess I can see you having a grudge against me still over that whole "fired you when you told me your parents restricted your computer time and you couldn't come online" thing... I guess. It's been, like, what, four years? But okay, if you want to be mad at me that's cool...

But why Moose? I'm not sure you noticed, but he seems to be the only person on the staff that actually has, like, ideas on how to improve this place. And I know you never really got to experience it much, but being a mod is a huge pain in the ***. Mainly because of people (such as yourself) that intentionally try to be a huge pain in the ***. Being an admin is a step above that. You actually have to make the decisions that matter. When trouble goes down, you can't run away; you have to try to think of some sort of solution. It's like 10% personal glory and 90% civil servant.

So maybe, somewhere down beneath all the proposals, Moose wants some power out of this. You know what I say to that? GOOD! SOMEONE needs the power around here. Alex isn't around to use his. I've resigned mine. Razor seems largely too busy to use his too much. So who's going to upgrade the site? Who's going to show up to ban the next wave of trolls? Who's going to hire new mods? Someone has to do it. I'd much rather it be someone willing.

[Osmose]

The reason I was blindly rejective of the election process is because of the horrible history that that has had. If we give the power of election to the people, they've been known to elect the most popular person rather than the most able. And if we give the power of election of head admin to the mods, then we remove any real power from that position (Sai'Kar's first year or so of adminship was ineffective and messy because he didn't have authority - the mod team was doing whatever they wanted because they had more power than he did.).

I'll reconsider a check on mod powers if enough people agree on something.

EDIT: For the record, Sai'Kar is not as gay as his support for me sounds.

[Dragonium]

If I may say so, I like Moose, and I respect him for all the hard work he's doing behind the scenes, but I think I speak for everyone when I say that I'd like to see some actual, tangible progress before I decide that he's "the best person to improve Charas".

I do also say that we need some new blood on the modding front. It may be just my bleak perception of the state of Charas, but our current moderators seem to have either little time or little passion for the job.

[Osmose]

The proposal was supposed to be seperate from any staff advancements and such, but Sai'Kar leaving doesn't help that. >_<

Charas 3.0 does not require that anyone become admin or anyone be demoted or anything. Staff changes are supposed to be seperate.

[Dragonium]

I didn't suggest that there needed to be any staff changes. All I suggested was that it would be a good idea to get some new members into power who would be ready and willing to serve the forum and would have the free time to do so.

[Trevlac]

You guys make me giggle. Tee hee. Stop it.

[Osmose]

I was referring to the "best thing to happen to Charas" thing, but appointing some new mods to fill the gaps is a good idea. It's not something we can do with the proposal - it's up to whoever becomes head admin.

[Dragonium]

Aye, I understand that. I'd just like to see something actually happen instead of being proposed. I don't doubt for one second that you can make this happen, but then that's been said about all the other things that were proposed for Charas by various people and never came to anything. The new banner, anyone?

[Revolution911]

We can rebuild it. We have the technology.

[Glitch]

Going off what Drag said, this would be a combination of mod check and new blood.


Why not have back up mods? Like, they have mod status, but are really only there for when mods are gone for extended periods of time. They would also have some say in forum matters too. That way when big changes are voted on in the private forums all the changes aren't decided by like 5 people. The same would work with a back up Admin. That way should an admin be gone for weeks on end, or be gone for a week during a troll invasion or somethin *cough*saikar*cough* we would have someone who could still maintain peace.

[Osmose]

In concept, that's what a global mod does. When one mod is away or is having trouble, a global mod can come in and pick up the slack in the area they're needed in.

In practice, back up mods would end up being simply a second mod - there's no practical way to "activate" a backup mod, and anyone who becomes a backup mod would simply fix any problem they see that the other mod missed.

The real problem is appointing mods who will do their job and not slack off over time.

[SonicChaos7]

And if we did have back up mods, we'd have more chiefs, which isn't exactly balanced and quite gay.

[WarxePB]

Yeah, I don't like the idea of back-up mods. I do, however, like the concept of a Charas Militia - if a mod is inactive for, say, a month or so (or if they notify the community that they'll be gone for a while), then the admin(s) promote a member of the community to temporarily take their place . Or, if that doesn't seem fair, the modship could rotate - one person could mod the forum for a week, then another person takes it, etc. until the person came back (and if they don't, then we choose someone to permanently take the position).
In fact, I kind of like that idea anyways - that way, there's always fresh blood in the mod team, and everyone gets a chance to abuse their powers. Even if C3 falls through, we'll still want to improve the community somehow, and perhaps this is one of the ways.

As for Osmose's power struggle: I TOTALLY AGREEZ LOL.
Really, if he was trying to reshape Charas in his image, we (as a community) would know.