Attention Gentlefolk: We need your opinion

[Moosetroop11]

After unmod was killed we weren't exactly sure what to do; there were a lot of topics there which, while not being spam, weren't the sort of topic you'd bother creating in all of all. Personal threads, and sudden thoughts, which created really interesting topics. It's like unmod created a place where you could speak your mind and not have to worry about whether what you posted was 'worth posting'.

We don't want to bring Unmod back, but we were thinking of an alternative... A sort of 'informal all of all', a forum that's moderated but in which the threads are allowed to wander far more freely. That place would, probably, be called the lounge.

Or, to put it another way...

"All right you cool cats and sexy ladies, welcome to the Lounge. Whether you need to just cool off or or turn on the heat, this is the place to be. You had unmod, but y'all let it get too wild, and there's only one place I like to be wild.

Whatchoo talking bout?

Oh c'mon baby you know. So all right you swingers out there, just lay back, and let it chill. Just remember that this ain't no groovy town, this is the Lounge, so all y'all better keep that spam away from here."

I really don't know. Just, read it in a failure of an Isaac Hayes voice.

Either way, I want your opinions. You're the people who told us to clean up the spam and get rid of unmod; is 'The lounge' a good idea, or are we just going to get a repeat of the unmod situation?

Feel free to discuss, but it'd be helpful if you put a definate 'yes' or 'no' to the idea in your post so I know where the general thoughts are on this.

Cheers.

[Egnio]

I'd say, Lounge seems to be quite good if it's going to fit personal/real life issues and thoughts, leaving world-facts and general talk or the like to All of All. (Note I don't know the literal meaning of Lounge, so if world facts fit there as well, I dunno)

[coasterkrazy]

You're the people who told us to clean up the spam and get rid of unmod

I'm still wondering who said this, besides the person who made the "We Need More Mods" thread.

[Vlad Shadeu]

I dont know what happened because i've been very unactive on Charas as of recent. I believe it should be restated in this thread for the uninformed (me).

[Razor]

So that's one vague answer and two non-answers.

[Archem]

I'll be honest, I don't think I should be allowed to express my opinion on a matter like this.

That being said, I'd be for such a thing. But it would have to be made clear that it's a place for quick or otherwise narrow ranged topics. And that it would be a sophisticated club. With jazz bands. And a bar that didn't serve anything. The bartender's there, but since nobody orders anything, he's eternally using his washrag to polish that single glass for eternity whilst guests go about their sexy business.

[Fisherson]

Well would we be allowed to post things like the thread Dragonium made? The one I went kind of crazy on.
If not, then i'll just settle for All of All.

[Moosetroop11]

If there's gonna be a bartender, Razor must be it.

As for the people who said charas wasn't strict enough... Well, quite a few people spoke about it in various places. I hate to point the finger at individuals but...

Well, for some members, including me, it's more like:
"Hey, some people have a drug problem, we need more cops to bust them for illegal drug use so that they can break the habit."
You can look around my posts, I don't think you'll find a lot that are just spam, and I'm surely not the only one having very few spam.

So yeah, the main problem isn't really the Staff not being strict enough, it's mostly members that couldn't stop spamming. But having the Staff not being strict enough didn't really help.

The spam is almost entirely because people are able to spam in Unmod and they forget that there's a boundary between there and the rest of the forum. People really just have to learn to leave the spam in Unmod, and make All of All posts relevant and have a point to them.

And the mod thing, yeah.

Perhaps if mods could be like, very sever for a couple months, after that, charas would be spam free, or at least less than now.

I know that of late I have been posting on the spammy side, but I've tried to keep on topic while doing so... if that makes any sense.

Plus, I hardly ever see a mod actually modding anymore. o.o  Its weird.

I'll be honest: Unmod is really encouraging the stuff we don't like. However, deleting it may cause spam to leak out more than it already is. Do posts in Unmod count toward your total? Because making them not count could try and bring down the spam a bit.

I am actually trying to fix everything that's going on here. I apparently had the power to cause it, so I must have the power to put an end to it. Right?

These were the sorts of posts that gave me the impression that people wanted stricter modding. Although not everyone agreed, we decided to give it a try. It killed the immediate problem, anyway :p


Also, for catching up purposes, this thread is a good starting point:

http://www.charas-project.net/forum/index.php?topic=23468.0

Also relevant: Unmod. And all threads made in the last few weeks of unmod.

[Almeidaboo]

Unmod was REALLY stupid...Maybe you'd like to theme the new room a bit, just so it doesn't get so annoyingly random.

[Archem]

I believe that if it were to happen, then it should be subdivided into groups (humor, quickies, srs bsns, chill zone, etc.) to try and keep a certain feel in each area. Hell, you could just go ahead and add this to the existing AoA and be done with it. Leave the current iteration of AoA as a general AoA, but have a group of subsections or something.

[boozer]

I think it sounds like a good idea, will allow people to speak there minds and thoughts but not have all the stupid posts

[shinotebasiiackh]

A lounge would be chill instead of unmod, but I think the whole thing is a little stupid in the fist place. Isn't it an option to be just a bit more lax on the AOA rules (which, I think, for a forum called All Of All, are enforced at silly, and often, un-needed times), instead of trying to figure out where to make this relaxed but non-spam enviroment? Isn't was AoA was supposed to be in the first place?

Sometimes it makes me chuckle a bit when I see what qualifies as spam on AoA. So someone wants to talk about mallard ducks. So what? This is a forum for all of all isn't it? No duh it has nothing  to do with RM2k, that's why he didn't put it in one of the MANY forums we have for every aspect of the program. Some people might find this topic completly uninteresting, but that doesn't mean it's spam. Just don't post there, and it will fade away.

I just think splitting all this stuff up into smaller and smaller catagories is just plain silly. It's sort of like making a chatroom called 'general', then kicking someone out because they didn't talk about music, art, or a cool new website (which seems to be all that this forum is made up of).
"NO IDIOT! YOU NEED TO GO TO GENERAL CHAT 2! THAT'S WERE THEY TALK ABOUT UNRELATED THINGS! ....Coming into General Chat talking about ducks... I KNOW! let's make a DUCK CHAT, or maybe a GENERAL CHAT3 so it doesn't get confusing for everyone!"


.... anyway ...yeah
I'm not saying that there should be topics all over the place like "OOOMG! you won't belive this.... but I just bought a ROOT BEER! LOL!". That's... just dumb spam. People buy stuff all the time. But if someone wants to talk about root beer (Maybe versus other sodas, how you don't like diet Barqs, but cream soda really grabs your bag? I dunno, it's just an example)... I mean, talking about root beerdoesn't seem very relevant, but why should stuff in AoA have to be relevant to the rest of the forum. If it was relevant to any of the other forums we wouldn't be posting here. IF someone REALLY wants to talk about rootbeer, what's the big deal? (also see: Mallard Ducks)

[A Forgotten Legend]

What I said in that thread was an observation.  Anyway, I like the idea, and the fact that is has a somewhat mod activity can prevent it from being an unmod.. wait.. that was really self explanatory...  All in All I like the idea.

[Meiscool-2]

I honestly see no qualms in bringing back unmod. The problem (at least in my opinion, which might not be valid I only became active at the begining of the "want mor modz" stuff) wasn't so much that spam was leaking from unmod into all of all, it was that there were no active all of all mods regulating it.

I would try unlocking unmod for... maybe a month? If the same problem occurs then you'll know what the cause is and you can go through with this gem of a plan.

[drenrin2120]

I kind of agree with Meis, if you make a board called the "Lounge", you've basically made "The Unmod 2" and slapped a fancy title on it and gave it a bartender. Personally, that sounds like a pretty awesome upgrade. I had no problems with unmod, but I'd also have no problems with moderation and spam control in said "Lounge". Just to prevent threads such as...

Title: fhadhafdhafd
Subject: ****ing your motharrrrr!!!

Content: Hahaha, I is allow'd do this! NYAH kyeah

You know what I mean? Just to prevent the truly and utterly spamalicious, useless topics.