Pokemon Black and White

[Valiere]

Us white boys are a little tired of every minority on the planet making as big of a deal as possible about every honest mistake or good-faith joke. It's okay to trumpet feminism or black heritage, but God help us if we show the slightest bit of pride in being a guy. And being okay with being white is a downright hate crime.

I guess I'm going to be dragging this out longer than I thought, but......wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

1. Guys openly show pride in being guys all the damn time, and no one says a thing. Ever seen beer commercials?

2. I can understand getting annoyed with frivolous complaints, but you guys get annoyed with every single complaint about racism or sexism. You just don't get it. A lot of times, racism/sexism isn't always blatant but is subtle enough that it may not be detected by those who have never experienced it before. That doesn't make it any less offensive. I know what that's like to not see it; if you had asked me 8 years ago about how I felt about the Jynx controversy or the controversy about how the new black Barbie dolls all have straight hair and non-brown eyes, I would have said the same thing you guys are saying. But then I grew up.

And I don't even give equal weight to all complaints like this; I looked at Resident Evil 5 (admittedly, I did not play it) and thought it would be a shame if games from now on refused to go anywhere near Africa simply because it would involve stirring up a hornet's nest of racism accusations. At the same time, I understood why people objected to the image of a white guy gunning down tribal Africans.

The fact is we do not live in a vacuum; there is a long history of outrageously offensive depictions of black people, particularly in the US. Since we in the US have that history, we flinch at the images like this:



You know. Like Jynx. That's Little Black Sambo, a character from a children's book that was all the rage in Japan until the 1980's. Japanese kids and their parents probably didn't get that caricature depictions of black kids could be offensive, simply because Japan doesn't have that history. I think that's how we got Jynx; the creators of the original game simply thought it would be a funny character that would get a chuckle out of everyone. Even if they didn't mean that, they didn't realize that Jynx at least looks like she belongs in a minstrel show.

3. If I can somehow get over the fact that I don't get to show pride in being white, I'm sure you can too.

[Prpl_Mage]

What bothered me about Resident Evil critism was that it was an African American raising his voice and not an African.
Also, what is wrong with gunning down dark-grey / blue skinned cannibals/tribal people infected with parasites in a swamp that belongs to an ancient religion where they infect themselves with the god's flower(progenitor virus) to become immortal and protect the garden?

True, our black population didn't get the racism about Jynx.
But we don't even have a history where black people are ex-slaves over here in Sweden. The black population are here as previous refugees or people looking for freedom.
So I suppose you guys have some more connection to stuff like this.

[Archem]

Long rant.

What the **** is wrong with you? This is a Pokémon thread! Get the hell out of here with that bullshit!

Swear to God...

[Valiere]

Man, I never get tired of your "knock it off guyz!!" act, Archem. Oh wait, yes I do.

[aboutasoandthis]

While I applaud your concern Valiere, I really don't get what you're trying to say. If you're just saying that Pokemon does have offensive images, that's okay. Everything does.

As for this game, I really really want it, I'm just a little afraid of starting with all new pokes. I played a japanese rom with the new ones mixed with the old ones and loved it.

[Cerebus]

Woah, this still going on?
People complain about everything, seriously. Some get offended at things others might not. We could always leave this as be.
Whatever. I may be just unlucky with the Voltorb Flip game. Suppose I could try it again... and again. And again. Is this really the only way to get a Dratini? I suppose Abra can be caught somewhere else, but Ekans, what about him to?

[Archem]

Man, I never get tired of your "knock it off guyz!!" act, Archem. Oh wait, yes I do.

So what? It's just so ridiculous that I'm getting a headache!

[Prpl_Mage]

You can get a Dratini from the cave behind Gym nr8. In HG/SS, still haven't found a gamecorner in B/W.

Also, the voltorb flip kinda reminds me of that mine game for pc. The oen with the flags and stuff. Same kind of thinking. You know how many voltorbs there can be on a row, and then the other row. So common sense will take you through the first couple of levels. Then chances start playing. Where is the greatest chance that there will be a voltorb? This row should have 1 voltorb, and I've picked all but two spots. Will it be on the row with 2 voltorbs or the one with 4?

And well, the fact that you just have to find the numbers makes it easier. And the music rocks. Love that game corner song. So friggin addictive as the game.


And btw, I got that Fire/bug poké. Loving the moth.
Btw2: Found 2 of the legendary.... steeds, by chance. Explored dark caves and bumped into them. Now I need to find the other one.
Also traded a celebi to this game and got myslef a Zoruo. Not sure what's so good about it though.

[drenrin2120]

Could be wrong, but I don't think B/W have game corners. =X

[Cerebus]

Aw, I wish I had Celebi. I missed the event at Gamestop. Well, at least I still got Mew, thanks to Lucas.
Also, yeah, the Voltorb game isn't all that bad, it's just I tend to get unlucky. Farthest I got was Level 3. It seems I always get a Voltorb when Luck is the only factor. I suppose I could always Quit after gaining some coins instead of trying to get a Level higher, but... it's going to be a long way until I can get a prize. I suppose I'll have to work on my patience...
Also, are Gold/Silver still the only Pokémon games in which you wander in more than one town?

[Natako]

Could be wrong, but I don't think B/W have game corners. =X

I may be the minority in this, but if that's the case I'm glad. I've always hated the game corners...and safari games for that matter. Damn Chanseys.

It's not like it makes or breaks the game for me either way. I'll still pick this game up whenever I can. I've also decided that I need to buy HG or SS one of these days as well, though I despise the female trainer in that game. She looks like Mario with a goofy hat.

[Prpl_Mage]

Also, are Gold/Silver still the only Pokémon games in which you wander in more than one town?

Please explain.

Also, the pre-genV pokés I'm missing is Mew, Deoxys, Darkrai and Arceus.
With Gen V we might just add all the legendaries and most black pokés. I do have Vinicity and Zoroa though.

[SaiKar]

Wait, no game corner OR safari zone in B/W?! What DOES it have?

[Cerebus]

He meant region.
Johto/Kanto.

Exactly. My bad. Don't know why I said town, it makes no sense...
Also, I've got to Level 4 in that Voltorb game, whoo! And then I've fell back to Level 1.

[Natako]

I'm still waiting for my Wii Pokémon MMORPG with Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh.

I'm with you on this one. How cool would it be if you could travel to all of the regions?