Pornwall

[daoman89]

lol my bad for making u guys argue a lil bit, i was just saying.  im sorry i came off as a douche, but that's the way i joke about some things haha.  im honestly not one and respect women and plus i figured that type of comment suits a topic called 'pornwall' lol.  i mean, doesn't that sum up perve from the start?  And none of you can say that you don't check out a girl, even for a split second, when they walk by etc.  It's the nature of men to look at them plus A LOT of girls wear the type of clothes that make you wanna look at them cause they want you to look at them. 

And watching porn is one of the perviest things you can do so if anyone was upset about not being able to (i didnt read all the comments) then you honestly have no right to call me one when in truth 99% of straight men at the beach will check out the girls.  I do apologize if I offended/upset you guys though, didn't think you'd take it so seriously.

And i'm sorry if my, let's say confidence cause i can't think of a better word, about my body and tan makes you feel bad too.  I can see how it came off as me being a jerk, but it went along with my "yay beach girls!" shpeel. 

But since I'm back now, it was a lot of fun drinking maddog at the beach at like midnight chilling.

EDIT PS:

I could've slept with some girl and got some btw, but i didn't because I'm not just gonna do things with a girl I don't have any feelings for.  I'm honestly probably one of the nicest people you guys could ever meet.  I don't like it when people are assholes (just saying, not saying any of you were here) so that's basically the only time you'll probably read something "mean" from me here.  If you wanna see what a true giant douche is, come to an American beach and you'll see plenty of them lol.  In fact, just come to the US in general and you'll bump into them.

[Prpl_Mage]

And watching porn is one of the perviest things you can do so if anyone was upset about not being able to (i didnt read all the comments) then you honestly have no right to call me one

This was the exact same thing that hit me. People seemed to react really hard on the fact that he checks out girls on the beach but think that the UK are total asshats for censoring porn. Didn't add up.

[Cerebus]

I'd just like to point out that the U.S. isn't the only place with many douches. You just have the disadvantage of being poorly represented due to the the fact that the most vocals people are the douchiest ones. Because trust me, we do have a large amount of douches here as well.

[Prpl_Mage]

I think that douchiness is a worldwide phenomena, but countries (Like Sweden) who lacks export of media kinda avoids the reputation. USA on the other hand export a lot of media with douches so the rest of the world all knows that although they have douches, the USA have more.

[Dr. Ace]

You guys don't get it right? It's his wording, not his words that bother me. Honestly, he sounds like he's got some disability with how he words it.

PS: Call offensive if you want, it's just how I feel when reading his post.

[Prpl_Mage]

PS: Call offensive if you want, it's just how I feel when reading his post.

Nah, it's not offensive. It's just your wording that bothers me. /irony

[Zerlina]

Pornography= girls who accept payment with the knowledge that people will look at them naked on the internet
The Beach= girls who want to go swimming and probably don't want some asshat waiting for their bikini top to fall off.

Maybe you should put yourselves in a girls' shoes for once. There are simple things you take for granted.
We walk down the street in a skirt and it gets a bit windy- we see a bunch of construction guys waiting to catch a panty shot. We go to the beach, and there's some dickweed hoping for a nipple slip. We go dancing or for drinks with friends and some idiot gropes us because we "look like we want attention"...it's ****ing stupid. Do you know how uncomfortable that is? You ever think we just want to dress up for OURSELVES because we think we look good that way, not because we want to impress men? Or maybe we just want to walk down the street, or go to the beach without someone waiting for our clothes to fall off?

****ing hell.

Yeah, we pick bathing suits cause we think that particular suit looks good on us, just like you guys buy particular shirts or pants that look good on you...sometimes people have worked out and they want to show off, sometimes (and most likely) they just want to go to the beach with their friends and not look shitty doing it. And if some little **** in swimshorts and a fedora could NOT stare at us with the hopes of seeing the parts of our bodies that we choose to keep covered, that would be fantastic.



Note: The only exception is Patrick Stewart. Because it's too late. He's seen everything.

[daoman89]

lol it sounds like how normal people talk around here (pa) when theyre making a silly comment about the beach. u should watch jerry springer and listen to those guests talk if were goin with disabilities lol.

i used a lil slang so i guess thats wrong.  part of my culture.  we call our friends assholes and pieces of ****, but it means nothing.  Its just how we talk and have fun. i think bonkers sounds stupid or whatever the english use over there. example: *entering the gym and seeing ur bud* give the head up movement, flip each other off then walk up shake hands and say 'whats up ***hole'. then we act normal and do our things.

nv knew some of u felt so strongly over something thats no big deal tho, but its cool. we are who we are, right? when i say something stupid or jokingly, i change up how i say it cause it ammuses me. its just what i and lots of others do. but now that we cleared that up a lil, expect some random wordings from me.

and in regards to Ceberus about douches... Our famous ppl do alot of dumb **** cuz theyr rich and think theyr more important and our media greatly brings attention to them.  theres bad ppl here, but theres also good ppl here whos existence remains and will remain in the shadows.  u hear about bad stuff on the news alot because, for whatever reason, it gets alot of views. what most of us want over here is no war and just to be left alone and let us start families, work to support them and try to be happy.  usa is filled with millions of amazing people, its just others give us a bad name. but if some of u guys view me as a douche, go ahead, but im mostly nice to everyone here and respect the variety of opinions u guys share.

Be prepared for more retarded and stupid comments from me in the future

[daoman89]

in response to Zerlina. I dont think ur completely right about us men. Girls will nv understand how we think and the same goes the other way.  Its instinctive for us to check women out, and its honestly hard to control.

Im sorry about my naked comment earlier, i wasnt being completely serious, it just went with the whole 'this topic is about pornwall, lets make a dumb comment for fun'. it was definitely taken waaaaay to seriously though lol.  Most guys lift mainly because it boosts confidence, but we dont want girls to like us only for our bodies. It's hard for both genders.

From what u said, we dont like having expectations from women either. We dont like the fact that alot of girls wont even acknowledge us if were not attractive enough for them.  You ladies are just as bad in that aspect as well, so ur comment goes both ways. The difference being men and women are very different from each other.  We think differenty. (thats a lot of use for the word different lol)  I will put myself and ur shoes more often though

[Cerebus]

Pornography= girls who accept payment with the knowledge that people will look at them naked on the internet
The Beach= girls who want to go swimming and probably don't want some asshat waiting for their bikini top to fall off.

Maybe you should put yourselves in a girls' shoes for once. There are simple things you take for granted.
We walk down the street in a skirt and it gets a bit windy- we see a bunch of construction guys waiting to catch a panty shot. We go to the beach, and there's some dickweed hoping for a nipple slip. We go dancing or for drinks with friends and some idiot gropes us because we "look like we want attention"...it's ****ing stupid. Do you know how uncomfortable that is? You ever think we just want to dress up for OURSELVES because we think we look good that way, not because we want to impress men? Or maybe we just want to walk down the street, or go to the beach without someone waiting for our clothes to fall off?

****ing hell.

Yeah, we pick bathing suits cause we think that particular suit looks good on us, just like you guys buy particular shirts or pants that look good on you...sometimes people have worked out and they want to show off, sometimes (and most likely) they just want to go to the beach with their friends and not look shitty doing it. And if some little **** in swimshorts and a fedora could NOT stare at us with the hopes of seeing the parts of our bodies that we choose to keep covered, that would be fantastic.



Note: The only exception is Patrick Stewart. Because it's too late. He's seen everything.

Psht. You say that like you girls wouldn't hope for a well-packed-underwear shot if guys wearing skirt would be a normal thing.

[Zerlina]

It's all about consent. If a guy wanted to show me his underwear it's one thing, if I'm watching him with the hope that there will be an unfortunate gust of wind, then that's another. As a side note, if some weird guy came up and was like "Want to see my underwear?" I'd probably be pretty weirded out, even if he was hot.

in response to Zerlina. I dont think ur completely right about us men. Girls will nv understand how we think and the same goes the other way.  Its instinctive for us to check women out, and its honestly hard to control.

I didn't say "you men," I said "you" and men like you. I'm sure there are a lot of men on this forum who have enough self control to not slobber all over the beach, waiting to see some side boob. I really don't think you're giving yourself OR your gender enough credit when you say you can't help it. It's not "boys will be boys." If a girl doesn't want you to see her naked, she doesn't want you to see her naked, and you shouldn't try to find a seedy loophole around it.  Pretty sure a lot of men would agree. It's not about checking people out...that happens...it's about actively trying to see a girl without her top when she doesn't want you to.

From what u said, we dont like having expectations from women either. We dont like the fact that alot of girls wont even acknowledge us if were not attractive enough for them.  You ladies are just as bad in that aspect as well, so ur comment goes both ways. The difference being men and women are very different from each other.  We think differenty. (thats a lot of use for the word different lol)  I will put myself and ur shoes more often though

How does women not being attracted to you if you're not her type/"attractive enough" have anything to do with you trying to see a woman's boobs without her consent?

[Archem]

This is why we need porn. All the creepy without all the creep.

[greenraven]

This topic now has my complete and undivided attention. I am intrigued. XD

Regarding what Zerlina said about consent and the beach, I'm gonna tread lightly here because this is clearly one of these touchy things that can go horribly wrong.

So let me tell you a story. Went on vacation to San Francisco once, went to the beach on a hot sunny day. For those of you who are unaware San Francisco is one of the largest openly gay cities in America, I think you can all see where this story is gonna go already. There where dudes there, lots and lots of gay dudes just straight up leering at me, one of them even tried to buy me ice cream and have small talk (i.e. tried to score a date).

The thing is that I had no problem with it because I expected something like that to happen. Consent is very much so implied in a lot of situations. Don't go to a gay beach if you're uncomfortable with gay men leering at you.


Now judging where this conversation is heading, the line in the sand (I'm being very punny ) is the issue of personal space. Seems like the real issue at hand is the difference between simply looking from a distance and invading someone's personal space to do so.

[daoman89]

It's all about consent. If a guy wanted to show me his underwear it's one thing, if I'm watching him with the hope that there will be an unfortunate gust of wind, then that's another. As a side note, if some weird guy came up and was like "Want to see my underwear?" I'd probably be pretty weirded out, even if he was hot.

I didn't say "you men," I said "you" and men like you. I'm sure there are a lot of men on this forum who have enough self control to not slobber all over the beach, waiting to see some side boob. I really don't think you're giving yourself OR your gender enough credit when you say you can't help it. It's not "boys will be boys." If a girl doesn't want you to see her naked, she doesn't want you to see her naked, and you shouldn't try to find a seedy loophole around it.  Pretty sure a lot of men would agree. It's not about checking people out...that happens...it's about actively trying to see a girl without her top when she doesn't want you to.

How does women not being attracted to you if you're not her type/"attractive enough" have anything to do with you trying to see a woman's boobs without her consent?

You've labeled me completely wrong, when I've explained it was joke that went with the topic title.  Obviously the way I said the whole beach was me being silly by the way I said it or 'worded' it.  I was also thinking of the Family Guy episode when Peter and Brian go to rehab in season 3 when Peter says "im addicted to boobies" which is why I said that.

And you're second quote wasn't just about 'seeing girls naked' but more on explaining that girls do the same thing to us guys, but in a different way.  I can see this matter really gets to you though, so I am sorry for making you mad and whatnot.  My plan was to say something stupid to get the heat from the guns part, but that failed lol.  I understand though how you think of me that way but its cool .  Btw, 99% of men don't 'slobber' on the beach, we all mind our own business.  But yes, there are those few that do what you've said, me not being one of them. 

PS:  I'm not mad at you for labeling me or anything, it's fine.  I get why you would so there's no hard feelings from me.

[Dr. Ace]

Daoman:
Of course you watch Family Guy. I'm not even going to say "I knew it" because it was obvious on your personality. Either way:

Zerlina:
Calm down girl. I can't say I can understand how you feel, I just don't. I'm not a girl, I don't have a ton of slobbering dogs waiting for my nipples to pop out (hell, if I go to the beach everyone gets them for free), but there's no reason to be pissed. I can understand what Daoman means, it's nature of a lot of men to look at pretty women. Sure, he acts like a douche 'tbut like he said, he can't help it, it's how he's been raised. But you don't have to get "pissed" (not sure if you are but that's the tone of your text) about it. It's just nature being nature. Of course your allowed to feel frustrated but it shouldn't ruin your day if you go to beach or whatnot. Remember, there are enough people that aren't like that.

Greenraven:
Honestly, I would've accepted that ice cream, **** yeah free stuff. Abuse that beach.

Purple:
Touché, you got me there.