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Offline Meiscool

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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2015, 10:53:34 AM »
Quote from: Dr. Ace on January 06, 2015, 05:54:02 PM
The first Dark Cloud, yes. I've put about 22 hours into the game and it's quite fun. I wouldn't even say the story is odd, it's just plain bad. The Dark Genie awakes and destroys all the villages on the world. Well, that's boring. Why? I dunno, they never explain (so far). Hell, it took 15 hours before I got a glimpse of our main baddie after the intro and it was only thirty seconds in an optional cinematic. As for the rest, you get the main basic of basic stories and settings. It doesn't take away from the gameplay, but goddamn the story is cringe. The worst part was where they took a boat to fly to the moon. Oh god. Or that the hero of one of the towns you visits just so happens to be the father of the main character that he never knew.

Level 5 plots in general are kinda bad.

Not anything against the company though. Dark Cloud 2 is my favorite ps2 game and WKC 1+2 is easily my most clocked ps3 game. Couldn't finish rogue galaxy though.

Quote from: Prpl_Mage on January 06, 2015, 04:43:42 PM

Another one. Xenoblade chronicles (not related to the above). I seem to be one of the only ones who aren't happy with the plottwist at the end. Or neither of the plot twists at the end. It made no sense and felt like the original storywriter had a heartattack and had to be replaced.

TBH, I went into the game expecting the plot to suck, and it started off 'meh' and gradually got awesome. It had enough twists to excuse a 'wrap up twist' at the end of the game. More effective than Tidus being a dream and ****.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2015, 06:46:30 PM »
I'd change godsent's plot to be really short so you release it ; )
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2015, 06:03:11 PM »
Speaking of FF7, GDQ will do a speedrun of it in a few hours.

http://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2015, 04:55:44 AM »
Man, I love the GDQ marathons. Blindfolded OoT run right now, so hype.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2015, 08:45:05 AM »
Quote from: Moosetroop11 on January 07, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
I'd change godsent's plot to be really short so you release it ; )

You're too kind :P
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2015, 07:52:53 PM »
I personally really liked Xenoblade's ending.  It was basically everyone finally breaking free from their fatal end.  The entire game they're trying to change the future and eventually learn that they can actually do it.  So when you slay Zanza, Shulk and his companions can finally live in a world with no passage of fate (i'm assuming anyways).  All they wanted was to live life in peace basically.  A story of such tiny insignificant beings making big changes.  But yeah, Klaus was a dick and killed us all, that selfish bastard.

Fun fact: Did you know Xenoblade Chronicles is only a test game?  The creator didn't expect it to become as well received as it did.  You can probably google and read about it.

Now let's see... I'll just get this outta the way.  Crisis Core had terrible side quests.  Wtf one was walk 10 feet to a treasure chest in a plain field.  Square Enix and their laziness.... 

I'd change the last few chapters except the end of Bravely Default.  I was never so pissed about doing the same **** 3 or 4 times in a row again.  Another example of their laziness.  I was really into the story and then BAM they ruin it for another 10 to 20 hours.  Sure they added those job battle combinations but that's not good enough.  Another flaw was how much HP the end bosses before the true end boss was.  I had to repeat the same **** like 20 turns.  And I was doing 9999 at least 4 times with 1 character some turns.  But yeah.... there's my partial plot i would change i guess.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2015, 11:58:39 PM »
Oh yeah, Bravely Default. Great game with some hints to time travel and then they make the second half of the game a repetition without any added story (more or less, unless you count the old perv). The fact that most conversations stayed the same also annoyed me. Like how you can enter a certain captains house and participate in a murder mystery a couple of times without the characters acting any different. Or the murderer changing. But whatever The ending was kickass. 3x dark knights & 1 spiritmaster ftw.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2015, 02:20:18 AM »
Quote from: Prpl_Mage on January 11, 2015, 11:58:39 PM
But whatever The ending was kickass. 3x dark knights & 1 spiritmaster ftw.

I won't lie, the ending got me hype as hell.  I'm not as excited for Bravely Second because of the composer change.  I know that's a dumb excuse, but I love Linked Horizon.  However, I am extremely hyped for Xenoblade Chronicles X, Legend of Zelda: U, and last but not least.... Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate.  Honorable mentions LoZMM, Starfox, Splattoon, Mario Kart 8 DLC, Fire Emblem x Shin Megami Tensei, maybe a Metroid or Fire Emblem Wii U announcement?  But yeah... I'm going off topic so I shall shut the hell up.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2015, 06:05:03 AM »
Quote from: daoman89 on January 11, 2015, 07:52:53 PM
I'd change the last few chapters except the end of Bravely Default.  I was never so pissed about doing the same **** 3 or 4 times in a row again.  Another example of their laziness.  I was really into the story and then BAM they ruin it for another 10 to 20 hours.  Sure they added those job battle combinations but that's not good enough.  Another flaw was how much HP the end bosses before the true end boss was.  I had to repeat the same **** like 20 turns.  And I was doing 9999 at least 4 times with 1 character some turns.  But yeah.... there's my partial plot i would change i guess.

I know two people that quit playing the game because of this. Really a bad move on the side of game dev.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2015, 12:42:18 AM »
Quote from: Meiscool on January 12, 2015, 06:05:03 AM
I know two people that quit playing the game because of this. Really a bad move on the side of game dev.

I almost did too.  The people at square enix do some dumb crap which I never understand.  I really really enjoyed the game up until the first world ended.  Then it slowly got duller and BAM it just pissed me off.  Like Fred said before though, the ending was amazing.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2015, 04:49:05 AM »
Okay after completing Zoids Legacy just yesterday I have to nominate it. It was great at first, one of the better mech strategy games I've seen, buuuut it's finall boss<Death Meteor, is just sad. -  -; Not that he's easy but he does the same three moves over and over and you have to fight him like six times and he never changes appearance or tactics. -  -; Has to rank as one of the worst boss fights ever tied with when I played FFT and actually literally was having three of four turns when the Finall Boss was having two at most. XD Also I was dealing massive damage and she...couldn't even kill my weaker units!! O_o Sheesh. Final bosses are supposed to be annoying and challenging and shake up your "prefect party/weapon/strategy

And since I mentioned bosses that's one of things I'd change about KOTOR 1. I freakin' loved that game but the final battle with Malak is just stupid. I work hard to train these cnine characters I have, even the normal non-jedi ones, and what happens? I find out I have to fight Malak solo. No help at all like ever. -  -; To me that almost killed all the good stuff that happened before it. I mean seriously!! Why give you the option to have so many good party members if you're the only one who can face the final boss?? XP I'd so throw that out and make that be the FINAL challenge. Have my party wear Malak's HP Bar down then have him paralyze them, as he's so fond of doing since like you first see him,  so it's just you and him. That'd be okay and make me little irritated but I could understand since allot of three dee platformers.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2015, 07:57:00 PM »
Speaking of Xenoblade. New nintendo direct made a "run around the world"-trailer for the new one as well.

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2015, 11:45:42 PM »
Have Haytham raise Connor in Assassin's Creed III, yet still have the main game events (Connor's mother is killed because of Haytham, and he must kill his own father). If the two actually had a relationship and Haytham's ideology had been imparted to Connor, it would have made it a much more difficult feat for Connor to seek revenge against his own father.

Change Connor so that he behaves with the above context in mind, and make him less reactive by having him decide what to do on his quest (then seek help from people who give him the missions), rather than have them just happen to him. In addition, give him a sense of humour, a soft spot for ladies, or literally anything that makes him more than the wooden brooding 14-year-old's-ff7-fanfic-jizz that he is.
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2015, 12:51:42 AM »
Quote from: Prpl_Mage on January 15, 2015, 07:57:00 PM
Speaking of Xenoblade. New nintendo direct made a "run around the world"-trailer for the new one as well.

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html

The world looks fantastic and interesting.  It makes you wanna explore it.  Sorry FFXV, but your world looks boring. U can look pretty all you want.  I'm sure it will be better than the XIII trilogy.  They've been working on it for how many years?  8? 10!?
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Re: Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2015, 04:38:11 AM »
Quote from: Rahl on January 06, 2015, 07:53:08 PM
Well I said earlier that I loved FF8's battle system and I truly do, but I do have to mention that the ending is probably the worst of any game I can think of, and not because of just how poorly it ended but because of how amazing the rest of the game was that made it just so terrible. I would have to say of all the games I've seen so far FF8 is the one that I would change the most, right now I've just made up a different one and forced myself to believe the real one never even happened.

Actually, I really liked the ending of FFVIII. Reminds me of an over symbolic art-school film.
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