Games Who's WHOLE PLOT You'd Love to Change.

[drenrin2120]

Honestly, I wasn't a big fan of Mario 2's plot. Too much birdo, not enough rocket ships.

[Prpl_Mage]

But wasn't it mario 2 that wasn't supposed to be a mario but was licensed in America as a mario?

[Archem]

^This. It wasn't a Mario game at all, but it got reskinned for the US release because Nintendo thought that the actual SMB2 was too difficult. It was basically a collection of new levels for the first game with a higher difficulty, so we didn't miss much. The actual SMB2 did eventually see a US release with Super Mario All-Stars on the SNES, which had graphical updates of all the NES Mario games, plus the Japanese SMB2 titled "Super Mario Bros. - The Lost Levels".

I wish my copy hadn't been stolen...

[aboutasoandthis]

Hello all. If you don't know me, I used to post a lot over a hear ago. That's why my post count is moderately high. I logged in just to respond this thread.

Well I said earlier that I loved FF8's battle system and I truly do, but I do have to mention that the ending is probably the worst of any game I can think of, and not because of just how poorly it ended but because of how amazing the rest of the game was that made it just so terrible. I would have to say of all the games I've seen so far FF8 is the one that I would change the most, right now I've just made up a different one and forced myself to believe the real one never even happened.

I recently heard of the "Squall is Dead" theory, and started replaying VIII because of it. While the game's nowhere near as bad as I used to believe it was, I would change it to completely conform to this theory. The idea of secretly killing the main character with the world as his subconscious is just cool.

I agree with Apex. I thought the ending was cool. The whole game reminds me of David Lynch now that I've seen a few of his movies.

[Apex]

I've read the "Squall is Dead" theory, it's pretty fun.
*SPOILERS for the ending of FFVIII.*

Honestly I always thought that the ending was indicative of Squall dying anyways. He collapses from exhaustion, and his life flashes before his eyes. His memories start to fade, and for a split second after a memory of Rinoa's space helmet shattering, you can see Squall with a big hole where is face is. Creepy imagery. The rest of the ending, it never shows anyone other than Rinoa with Squall.

On the subject of FFVIII theories, I really like the one claiming that Rinoa is Ultimecia.

The story of FFVIII has a lot of weak points, but honestly the fact that the ending is so open to interpretation is one the games greatest narrative strengths.

Also, the battle system = tons of fun. (Anyone who whines about the drawing system is either an idiot, or never played past the first hour.)
Triple Triad = Awesome.
Final dungeon (4th disk.) = my favorite final area in a Final Fantasy game, and probably in any game.

[Rahl]

Well don't get me wrong the game is amazing, I mean absolutely amazing. I just like to pretend that it ended in a much better, much less"everything I just spent the last 20-30 hours didn't actually happen" kind of way.

[Meiscool]

Having no MP felt weird for a FF game. I think a lot of people might not have liked the draw system because it was kinda like artificial stat points, and you didn't want to use the spells you drew because you'd reduce your stats. Magic didn't seem that effective either until Aura/Meltdown comes around. Plus if you don't remember to draw from every boss you miss GFs, which in turn means a reduction in stats for a casual playthrough.

I restarted twice (I think) because I missed Siren and another GF whose name goes unremembered. :/

[Prpl_Mage]

I kinda liked the system with the Guardian forces and whatnot. But I also forgot to draw from all bosses to earn some GFs so resets kinda made me stop playing after a while. That and I tried to win something from Elena from that card game in space or something. Been some time.

[Zoltar]

I kinda liked the system with the Guardian forces and whatnot. But I also forgot to draw from all bosses to earn some GFs so resets kinda made me stop playing after a while. That and I tried to win something from Elena from that card game in space or something. Been some time.

This was a major draw back. But you had to like the limit breaks having some many varieties of styles. Except maybe Irvine's....it could have been done a little better I think.  But Triple Triad made up for anythign anyone can say about FF8. I had allot of fun with that but I didn't like how the rules could change permanently without your authorization. I mean it's challenging sure but it's also irritating if you don't get some of the more complex rules and you just wanted to play a quick hand of cards between boss fights.

[aboutasoandthis]

On the subject of FFVIII theories, I really like the one claiming that Rinoa is Ultimecia.

The story of FFVIII has a lot of weak points, but honestly the fact that the ending is so open to interpretation is one the games greatest narrative strengths.

I really like the Rinoa=Ultimecia theory too. I personally would make it a dual personality metaphor, like Mary and Maria from Silent Hill 2. Rinoa would represent Squall going after a girl before dying. Ultimecia would represent the reality that he didn't.

Not that I don't like this game. Even if the game is a little out of my taste, it is still a good one. I also think the Junction system is impressive now that I know how to play. I just think the story could use more thematic focus. VII had that environmentalism thing going on. IX and X focused a little more on death. Really, what was this game about? Love? Nations? Are there any real reasons why things like the Lunar Cry and Lunatic Pandora were in the game, aside from looking cool? The main villains were female, so why didn't they talk about sexism or anything? I feel like they missed out on good topics.

I do like all the military references. They did a good job displaying military life.

[daoman89]

I care not what other people around these interwebs think!  Final Fantasy VIII is my ****! Ahh, the good ol' squaresoft/enix/whateverifithaschanged. 

[Rowan]

What I wouldn't do to change Grandia 3's, Star Oceans 3's, and Star Ocean 4's plots.

[Moosetroop11]

God yes. Star ocean 3 especially... But star ocean 4 kept up the decent plot for so long before it devolved into that completely rubbish dungeon and hundreds of lines of dialogue about the power of friendship...

[Meiscool]

Remove Lymle and you got yourself a good game.

[Prpl_Mage]

Remove Lymle and you got yourself a good game.

Remove all characters except Edge, Reimi and Arumat and you got a good game.