Chain Game 4 Discussion

[Fisherson]

Okay so first off I am NOT initiating the chain game. <.< Just wondering what the interest level is currently and want to go over some ideas and such. So the last three games,a false start and two 100% complete games, have been fantasy related. There was also the previous two false starts that were sci-fi. There's also the fact the hero has been a male EVERY TIME. So two things right off: Heroine and Sci-Fi universe not unliek Doctor Who or the Hitchhikker's Guide to the Galaxy. But that's just my two cents. I want to hear all of YOUR opinions and see if anyone's even interested before we develop another idea. So post and let the arguements- Ah debates begin! =p

[Meiscool]

There is a reason that there are not many Sci-Fi games made with rm, and that is because the resources are harder to come by.

As for the female lead, I don't think anyone has an objection with that.

[Zoltar]

Huh a sic-fi game? ...Nyah! I want to see a sequel! I loved all the magical stuff that was going on the first game! Plus the pr-history there was was interesting. Shame I can't play the first and second Chain Games. =/

There is a reason that there are not many Sci-Fi games made with rm, and that is because the resources are harder to come by.

As for the female lead, I don't think anyone has an objection with that.

See? Another reason not to make it sci-fi. Also female hero sounds rad! As long as she's cute and ditzy and doesn't wield a sword. Maybe something crazy like a Kuzanagi! A weighted chain weapon.

[Fisherson]

There is a reason that there are not many Sci-Fi games made with rm, and that is because the resources are harder to come by.

As for the female lead, I don't think anyone has an objection with that.

Well Lonewolf and I have a huge library of Sci-fi resources and we have talented sprite makers like me, Prpl and of course Momeka. Though I will admit even my "vast collection" is limited by chipsets. It'd require a few customs for sure before we're done. <.<; Hmm maybe it would be better do something fantsy-like or what we did in the last two complete games: sci-fi and fantasy and a few others things in between. Certainly takes a bit of pressure off of the makers and doesn't hinder their creativity.

Awesome! I was hopping nobody would. ^_^

Huh a sic-fi game? ...Nyah! I want to see a sequel! I loved all the magical stuff that was going on the first game! Plus the pr-history there was was interesting. Shame I can't play the first and second Chain Games. =/
See? Another reason not to make it sci-fi. Also female hero sounds rad! As long as she's cute and ditzy and doesn't wield a sword. Maybe something crazy like a Kuzanagi! A weighted chain weapon.

Well if there's time we could see Jack and co again but not as the stars. More like how Devon and his party popped up in the most recent one and helped the hero out during cut scenes or we could see cameo roles where the characters just pop up in a town or something. Like...Maybe Jazel could be at a local temple and heal yoru character, but they wouldn't interact beyond that. Trust me I'd love to see them all in adventure again, especially since we didn't see how their tale "ended" and were for once made to interpret it in our ways like in classic RPGs, but we can't continue it at the moment. Feel free to start a fan sequel like Felix did with OFF and how I secretly still wish to finish the Charas Mayoral Steam Punk Chain Game by myself...<.< Eventually.

Hmm chained weapon sounds interesting. Though a Kuzanagi? I'm actually not even sure if that's the right way to say it, let alone how one wields it. ^^; Side we should start simple and then complicate her a little. First let's decide on a name and role. We should also think about at least trying a non-human I think. Don't get me wrong I love humans but it'd be a nice change of pace.

[Prpl_Mage]

Well a female lead could work of course, but in that case it feels like we need to be on our best behaviour. I personally can't stand a female lead that's nothing more than some projected sexual fantasy of the author/whatever.

Sci fi could work. But as meis pointed out, kinda lacking on the resource department. I know you got a stack by now but considering how many chipsets we used for the last one - yeah.
Monsters, battlers, charsets and whatnot can be done in a jiffy but chipsets are kinda difficult to just fix up.

[Moosetroop11]

Gothy swashbuckler, maybe.

Sounds fun.

[Zoltar]

Well a female lead could work of course, but in that case it feels like we need to be on our best behaviour. I personally can't stand a female lead that's nothing more than some projected sexual fantasy of the author/whatever.

I agree. The lead needs to at least somewhat more intelligent than those she leads. Either or be naive and idealistic. Though with a Goth would that work?

  that. Trust me I'd love to see them all in adventure again, especially since we didn't see how their tale "ended" and were for once made to interpret it in our ways like in classic RPGs, but we can't continue it at the moment. Feel free to start a fan sequel like Felix did with OFF and how I secretly still wish to finish the Charas Mayoral Steam Punk Chain Game by myself...<.< Eventually.

Aww okay maybe I will! Wait there was Steampunk Chain game?? I'd love to play that!

A Okay so no chain mace. How about chained scythe or a plain flail or anything but a sword and shield. There's too many heroes who use them as is.

[drenrin2120]

A sci-fi genre sounds great! I totally support that idea. It just means you guys are gonna have to be more creative with your chipset use.

I would participate but what little time I do spend in rpgmaker is currently dedicated to other pursuits. I may be persuaded to provide some music or graphics aid if requested and if this gets off the ground. But I'm not taking a chapter like I tried last time, I've learned my lesson and the depth of my commitment.

[Meiscool]

I like weak as **** main female leads who undergo growth and emotional change through the game (which results in unlocked skills/equipment), eventually becoming a top tier unit.

Valkyrie profile 2 had this. Some Fire Emblem games. Trying to think if anything else did.

If you REALLY wanna go the sci-fi route, you could always Assassin's Creed the game. Would only require a little bit of futuristic chipsets and the rest could be fantasy. Like star ocean or something.

[Fisherson]

A sci-fi genre sounds great! I totally support that idea. It just means you guys are gonna have to be more creative with your chipset use.

I would participate but what little time I do spend in rpgmaker is currently dedicated to other pursuits. I may be persuaded to provide some music or graphics aid if requested and if this gets off the ground. But I'm not taking a chapter like I tried last time, I've learned my lesson and the depth of my commitment.

XD Ahh don't be that way, Dren! I killed a chain game and missed out on two others and look! I manged to not only finish my chapter this round but add three specefic extra scenes in the game mostly to my liking. I didn't get to do the one with Tai-Lo I wanted to and I had to write off Sally and Evon's rematch with Jazel but eh. Means they can show up in this one maybe since the Amazon Queen did say she gave them a Portal Stone. <.< So if I take a chapter sides the begining I may have to at least have them show up as mini bosses and Team Rocket it up a little XD Hmm so you want a sci-fi game too? Maybe I should have done a poll on genre? ^_^; Personally as I said I like the middle ground, but I can do sci-fi if I need to.

I like weak as **** main female leads who undergo growth and emotional change through the game (which results in unlocked skills/equipment), eventually becoming a top tier unit.

Valkyrie profile 2 had this. Some Fire Emblem games. Trying to think if anything else did.

If you REALLY wanna go the sci-fi route, you could always Assassin's Creed the game. Would only require a little bit of futuristic chipsets and the rest could be fantasy. Like star ocean or something.

Oooh I know. It's more fun when they start out like Lucy from Fairy tail: Helpless Girl to Descent Fighter, but could bettter to Hiden Talent saves the day and then to Heroine. Ahh it's a fun way to do it. Works best in FE games I think cause they have all that content and opportunity to talk between battles and during them and evne incoporate more story IN the battle field. Alas a Tactical Turn Based Battle System is waaaay beyond my coding skills. Sides I like the DBS. It can be pretty useful if you tweak it right. Though I will admit I played a picture based battle system that had such a complex AI! @-@ Gyah one day we need to try that. I am highly against using time travel too much. I mean I implied it with Yva, Neil, KarliaLecarva when they were taking Fara's soul to the Death World so she couldn't have her boss mode round two moment buuuuut I don't think I'll make good on it for a long time. I was sorta implying one day I'd like to do a fan sequel to Lost and Found (Charas Chain Game 1) where Devon and Co get to live again. I even had a TARDIS in the game and half considered allowing one to step into it and be teleported to Dragonia in cave man times for fun and to get a secret item but I didn't. Time travel is great in some places but in others it just makes people mad or complicates plots too much I feel.

[Prpl_Mage]

Maybe we could ditch the DBS this time? I'll try to throw together some suggestions on alternative battle systems and how user friendly they would be. Just don't expect them tomorrow or so.

[Fisherson]

Hmm I'm not sure about a CBS. It'd have to be so user friend even the worst of us could at least do a basic battle. Unless....We script out the bits leading up to battle then somebody or maybe two somebody's codes out the monsters when we get done with the game's story? It'd make testing playing boring for a bit but it'd also dramatically speed up time due to us not having to check for glitches and bugs in the DBS or fighting with it to get the boss just the way we want it and taking a bit too much time. We'd be able to focus on the story more. Hmm but I'd need to see this system and see how user friendly it was. I mean I know the DBS is limited but it's tried a true.

[Momeka]

I would be down for another one, I'm willing to start one off if no one else feel like it.

As for cbs, I think that might be a bad idea. We really shouldn't over complicate things, it will just be a hassle down the road.

[Meiscool]

CBS should be fine if we make it basic.

I've been thinking about making my own version of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG9MHyzmurA
Seems like this system would work well and be easy enough to streamline to where you only have to modify a few variables to add attacks and such.

[Zoltar]

I would be down for another one, I'm willing to start one off if no one else feel like it.

As for cbs, I think that might be a bad idea. We really shouldn't over complicate things, it will just be a hassle down the road.

Wait anyone can start it?? Not just admins  and stuff?

I agree. A CBS would be cool but it'd take more time to learn and what if we broke it between chapters? DBS with mods will suit our needs very well thank you. I mean I'm still learning things on it myself.

  I've been thinking about making my own version of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG9MHyzmurA
Seems like this system would work well and be easy enough to streamline to where you only have to modify a few variables to add attacks and such

Would that work for multiple allies? The last chain game had 6 playable characters. And how long would it take to learn? Doesn't look too different from the DBS to me.