Charas 3.0

[Osmose]

I don't quite agree with the Veterans idea, but if it's a necesary subset of the Fool idea, which I like far more because it finally gives power to normal moderators so that they can carry out their duties and punish individual users, I'll just have to swallow it.

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There's something I'd like to elaborate on. Meiscool appears to have shown (And others have as well) that some of you don't really get the magnitude of the suggested changes. We aren't going to make a few threads that focus what's already here. We aren't going to do a behind-the-scenes switch that you guys won't notice. We aren't going to do something quite as trivial as that.

We're going to change Charas. We're going to change the look and feel (And let you keep the old look and feel if you want). We're going to unify the entire website into one easy-to-use system. We're going to move to a new server with new rules and new features. This isn't just some little rally. What's being proposed, taken in it's entirety, will change how you use Charas. It's not going to be earth-shattering, and not even as amazing as the speech just made it sound, but it's going to be a big change, and some of you have yet to really see that.

[MrMister]

So it's HAPPENING?
That's fine.. I wanna know what Alex's opinion is on this though, heh.
It's not a bad proposal.. I still stand by my 'make your own site' statement though. There's no reason to even associate Charas with this forum you want to make.

[Daetyrnis]

Originally posted by Osmose
I don't quite agree with the Veterans idea, but if it's a necesary subset of the Fool idea, which I like far more because it finally gives power to normal moderators so that they can carry out their duties and punish individual users, I'll just have to swallow it.

It's a very beneficial thing though.  It gives newbies some people to look to and to potentially get help from.  It gives some dedicated members a sort of reward.  Moreover, it gives people a goal, something to aspire to, but to do so they need to follow ettiquette and contribute to the community.

[Osmose]

Aha! MrMister caught me there. I was actually going to say this in response to Warxe but he beat me to it.

The ideas are all great. But Sai'Kar left out of frustration at not being able to make the changes he wanted. And therein lies why I even brought this to the public instead of straight to Alex - the chances of the entire proposition being completed are slim to none no matter what. There's gotta be some cutting somewhere. And this is all assuming Alex agrees with the plan.

From his standpoint, Charas is doing fine. The members complain, but they *always* complain. The mods want more power. The mods *always* want more power. Moreover, switching servers, coding new stuff, it's all a lot of work for something that appears to be doing fine without it. I don't blame him at all - not only am I grateful for him making the website in the first place, I can see where he's coming from.  There's few reasons to undertake any large part of what Charas 3.0 entails, and a whole world of reasons not too.

It's not this Osmose's website, why is he suggesting all these changes like he owns the place? The kid's always been arrogant and too opinionated for his own good. The only reason he even got to where he is today is because he rode on Sai'Kar's back. And now he thinks he can waltz in and propose these huge changes?

It's hardly as haughty as that, but the general viewpoint from where he's standing gives him no incentive to do anything. Already I feel kinda bad pumping up expectations when I am not the one who makes the call, but really, I couldn't care less if this backfires in my face: If it works, a website I love gets upgraded and I get to help in the process. If it doesn't, my e-penis shrinks and people hate me. OH NOEZ.

Once everyone has had their say and have suggested all that they want to, we'll summon Alex using our magic powers and show him the proposition. What he does from there is his choice, and I'll respect whatever choice he makes, although I don't promise that I won't complain if things don't work out. Dems da breaks.

PS: Propaganda. Couldn't resist.

[aboutasoandthis]

Dude, I love the baby. Soon to be signatured.

[Osmose]

Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
Dude, I love the baby. Soon to be signatured.

Baby? It's an RMXP template...  

[aboutasoandthis]

I'll call it a baby if I want it to. Don't embarrass me now and ruin this for me.  

Edit: BTW Osmose, I know I don't show it much but I respect your authority and I like you as a person. It sucks that we have this wierd wall or something. Any tension (The Christmas Thread) mostly came from me not respecting authority in general at the time. I just wanted to say that.

[MrMister]

Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
I'll call it a baby if I want it to. Don't embarrass me now and ruin this for me.  

I thought it was a reference to the baby in a bubble from Space Odyssey 2001.. I guess Osmose ain't hip enough hA HA

osmose I'm sorry for bein mean to you

[Daetyrnis]

*jumps on bandwagon*

*jumps off*

I forgot to mention.  You need to make sure that the new Charas, if it is created, can handle lower-case BBCode.

EDIT:  And doesn't resize things in [IMG] tags.

[Djanki]

How about bigger avatars? There have been times where I can't upload a picture for an avatar because it's such a girly-man-ish uploading system (hence my 'Immortal Otenko').

That might overload the bandwidth, but...



Make room for me on teh bandwidth bandwagon! ^_^

[neb87]

well if this ever get's done ill be sure
to donate some cash or ill get 50 First Born Children
to illegally operate a sweat shop and donate all
proceeds to charas, there death's will not be in VAIN
lol, think i have drank to much coffee

[charaman]

I'm so donating.




Also, I could offer you hosting, I have like 1 TB of bandwidth on my hosing id if trhats enough

[Ben]

I think this is goodness.
I support this. Charas is like Blue crack...but its like blue crack thats not cut with speed. Cook some speed into that crack, and youve got yourself a slice of junkie heaven.
Or, in not retard speak: I believe that this is a sewome Idea. I dont think it would be Gamingw. But it would be improved....or dare i say it...
ON PAR with the other sites out there. Charas sort of needs to be cleaned up. Inactive members...malorganized resouces...
I like that we've stayed 2K3 oriented....but theres a whole world of XP out there too, and more people are begining to get into that here. We have no scripts archives...or differentiating system for 2k3 and xp resources aside from "Just post them in 'various'". Charas is still better than other sites....we've got a wickedawesome pile of resources, and the generators....but this whole thing could be soooo much more.....on par....and better.

I would contribute some cash....but I'd have to send it after I was done my contract, and thats not until June....late june.....and If the Idea gets Nixed then Im not sending money.

[Moosetroop11]

Oooh, this is going well

The Alex thing isn't a problem if we switch to a host that allows us to edit the site, right? The biggest issue is the host decision. If we switch then we don't have to pester Alex anyway.

[Bluhman]

I'm not conservative, though I'm particularly against the whole thing about member rewards and all that, and also against the whole money business, I support this stuff.