Apathy of Angels - Updated 7/22/12 - Full mini update on pg1

[drenrin2120]

I see your point about the battles. I'm trying my best with what the dbs has to offer. I honestly don't know what else to do to make it more interesting.
I'm sorry you didn't like the trailer.
As for the names, those will stay the same. It doesn't really matter what they are. I mean, the enemies and boss are easy for a reason. They're the first enemies and bosses you encounter. Someone else complained about this another forum. What do you expect out of the first boss? If I made him harder and you died, it would be "he's way too hard, I stopped playing immediately".

I call it a demo because it's not the entire game, not because it's a demo in the traditional sense. You've played demos for rpgmaker games, you know they're not like demos for professional games.

Either way, points taken. I've been told by a few people the intro isn't very engaging. So I've been working on fleshing out the characters better in the intro. Also, I've been putting in some new gameplay espects, messing with monster stats and blah blah.


This is the new "Tome of Mekra" thingy. It's just a nicer looking menu.

[the dark tower]

I've downloaded this and I'm on the title screen, I plan to edit this as I play it. First thoughts are the title screen and theme are awesome lol

The cutscene is well evented and nice way of started the game imo The maps aren't perfect but they aren't bad either. So far I'm liking it.

Hmm, the lack of music when you were discovered seemed to make the scene feel lifeless and un-suspenseful. Also giving that guy a laugh sfx would be awesome lol

Just saved it, it's all been good so far, only complaint was the scene in the Kings chamber, it just felt lacking.
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I think I found an error, you know that really tough monster you can't beat after you enter the world map from the port? When I went into battle the mini map stayed on the screen.

Also in Juniper the man in the far left bottom house says "I live here with my brother and her wife" lol Also in the weapon shop I can walk on top of the orange chests.
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Loving the book and skill trees btw Also nice touch with the town map.
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Talking to Parry at the mansion door, he says 'take' instead of 'talk'
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Just saved, I'll play more later. So far it's a pretty game! Reminds me of FF6 and FF4 a bit lol Also you've picked out some good music!

[A Forgotten Legend]

I'd just like to say, I finally got around to playing the demo I downloaded a while ago.  That opening cut scene was veerrrry well done event wise.  I also like to new version of the opening song you have in there.  It certainly fits the rest of the music in the game well.  Good job.

Also, I just noticed something weird in your first post in the credits.
"Lucas irineua"

I think you added an extra letter. haha

[drenrin2120]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3W3TYSAX

I've fixed most everything and even added a secret dungeon at the end of this demo. Yes, this very long demo. Which is really more like an episode I guess. But whatever. I've added some stuff to make the Skill tree more convenient and fancied it up with a new main menu screen when you open your "Tome of Mekra", which is what you use to view quests, skilltrees, and organize party members. I actually did all this a while ago. Any time spent on this recently was fixing bugs. I'm fairly confident there aren't any game breaking bugs left. I even fixed a bug in the skill tree that no one had noticed which rendered a branch basically useless. But yeah, regardless, this is the last update of this version. Any more work on this game will be going forward with the storyline and maybe actually doing something about the sprites not having animations for everything.

As always, enjoy.

[ellie-is]

*downloading*
I'll give it a try later today, probably.

[drenrin2120]

Welp. New link 'cuz megaupload imploded...

http://depositfiles.com/files/4bj7rqmaa

[drenrin2120]

So, having become fed up entirely with trying to work with rm2k3's default experience system, I believe I've found a way around it. If all monsters experience is set to 0, it won't display during the victory screen that any was given. My plan is to given experience based on my calculation after the battle.

Problems with default experience system.
-The equation is utterly useles (primary, seconday, tertiary). It's essentially, A + B + C. Which means it doesn't really matter what numbers go where, they're just being added up arbitrarily.
-Because of the first problem, this means the experience system only ever doubles itself. This means level 50 only takes twice as much experience to level up at then level 25.

The solution.
-If I can't change the above system, I'll change how experience is given out.

In this system, the amount of experience you gain from a battle will be given after you exit the battle (since I already have a message that pops up displaying the amount of AP you got from that battle). While the exp needed to gain a new level doubles with each level, the experience you get with each level increases by less than half. I spent a few hours hashing out equations and this is the best I came up with, for anyone interested.


NOTE: rm2k3 always rounds up. (I think, it might actually just ignore decimals, meaning 2.5 becomes simply 2.)

P = Character's average level
M = Monster group's level
B = Boss Bonus (doesn't only apply to bosses)
N = Number of enemies present
L = [50 - (P - 25)/ 2] = Level Bonus
A = B + L

LEVEL BONUS CURVE
LEVEL 1 BONUS = 62
Level 10 BONUS = 58
Level 25 BONUS = 50
LEVEL 50 BONUS = 37
LEVEL 99 BONUS = 13

[(M-P) + M)] * N + A


Some examples
M = 1
P = 1
N = 1
Exp = 63
To next level = 77, 2 battles

M = 4
P = 10
N = 2
Exp = 54
To next level = 752, 14 battles

M = 10
P = 10
N = 3
Exp = 88
to next level = 752, 9 battles

M = 25
P = 25
N = 3
Exp = 125
to next level = 1877, 15 battles

M = 50
P = 50
N = 3
Exp = 187
to next level = 3752, 20 battles

M = 98
P = 98
N = 3
Exp = 307
To next level = 7352, 24 battles

It's based off character levels and enemy levels that will be assigned. If a character is a higher level than an enemy, they will gain less experience points. If a character is a lower level then an enemy, they will gain extra points then if they were the same level. The theory going that this will force players to move on to new territories and new monsters. You won't be able to spam low level monsters for too long. This system also allows for low level characters to gain new levels a lot faster then they will at higher levels, while higher levels take gradually more and more time to gain. BUT, an awesome unexpected side effect is it seems that the difficulty in gaining higher levels increases slower than pre-level 25 grinding.

Another great result from this equation is that the higher you level, the more important it becomes to fight more than one enemy, meaning the battles become tougher. At level 5, fighting one or three monsters is the difference between 3 exp points. At level 50. it can mean the difference between 150 points.

[ellie-is]

Well, that's some pretty smart stuff there! Like, really.

[drenrin2120]

Aww thanks! It's really just a lot of trial and error.

[bigbadke12]

Amazing Game!
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[drenrin2120]

Oh? So you've played the game? Thanks! Any critical review is always welcome!

[drenrin2120]

YAYAYAYAYAY!
http://rpgmaker.net/tutorials/10/
Why did I not know this?!

[ellie-is]

No idea. Good to know, though! Quite an useful link. Someone should post it somewhere else in the forums as well. Might come in handy if anyone here actually finishes an rpg maker game.

[Prpl_Mage]

YAYAYAYAYAY!
http://rpgmaker.net/tutorials/10/
Why did I not know this?!

Or you just choose to create a game disk and it automatically saves every resource including the rtp into the new game folder thingy.

[drenrin2120]

Well, I assumed that too, but I've had friends who have run into problems even with a gamedisk. They got back "RTP missing" errors. That little bit about adding "FullPackageFlag=1" into the RTP_RT.ini file actually worked. Also, RMTool is great for deleting files you don't use and saving space.