Getting Help on Charas

[WarxePB]

If people don't lke the graphics, then they can choose not to play the game. But a game shouldn't be judged on its graphics alone; that's my point.

[blackskullwarlock]

I agree with what you say but that's how things are. RTP = Big evil demon. I honestly have nothing against it so long as it is used properly.

[Ace of Spades]

One thing that people need to understand is that they want someone else to do something for THEM. If someone doesn't want to do something for YOU, that doesn't mean you whine about it. I've had my own experience with this, and finally slapped myself in the face and said "Hey! You're asking someone else for help, so if they want to help you, it's their decision." Here's an example of what requesting is compared to.

Kid: Dad, can I get this toy?
Dad: No.
Kid: But Dad, I really really want this toy...
Dad: Sorry son, but not today.
Kid: BUT DAD I REALLY REALLY WANT THIS TOY!! REALLY REALLY BADLY!!!
Dad: Don't raise your voice to me...
Kid: BUT I REALLY WANT THIS TOY!!! DAD!!!! DAD!!!! I WANT THIS TOY!!!!!!!!!!
Dad: Alright, not only are you not getting the toy, but you're grounded.
Kid: *cries and whines a lot*

The way this is related to requests, is the kid is asking his dad for something, just as someone who requests, is asking someone else for something. Now, obviously the requester doesn't get grounded, but instead, gets a "mark" on his name, and request fulfillers will know how he acts, and won't do his request, or future requests, which is similar in a way to, "you're not getting the toy AND you're grounded."

[Tomi]

Originally posted by Ace of Spades
One thing that people need to understand is that they want someone else to do something for THEM. If someone doesn't want to do something for YOU, that doesn't mean you whine about it. I've had my own experience with this, and finally slapped myself in the face and said "Hey! You're asking someone else for help, so if they want to help you, it's their decision." Here's an example of what requesting is compared to.

Kid: Dad, can I get this toy?
Dad: No.
Kid: But Dad, I really really want this toy...
Dad: Sorry son, but not today.
Kid: BUT DAD I REALLY REALLY WANT THIS TOY!! REALLY REALLY BADLY!!!
Dad: Don't raise your voice to me...
Kid: BUT I REALLY WANT THIS TOY!!! DAD!!!! DAD!!!! I WANT THIS TOY!!!!!!!!!!
Dad: Alright, not only are you not getting the toy, but you're grounded.
Kid: *cries and whines a lot*

The way this is related to requests, is the kid is asking his dad for something, just as someone who requests, is asking someone else for something. Now, obviously the requester doesn't get grounded, but instead, gets a "mark" on his name, and request fulfillers will know how he acts, and won't do his request, or future requests, which is similar in a way to, "you're not getting the toy AND you're grounded."

Great analogy Ace.  I've also had people who I had never heard of or met before ask me to do a request that was really hard.  Its like randomly walking up to someone and asking for enough money to buy a PSP.


 

Originally posted by CoolZidane
So you're saying you would be perfectly fine if I made a game where the main character was shapeless mass of pixels and the battlecharsets were nothing because that's the best I can do?

Thats why Alex made the generators.

[coasterkrazy]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
If people don't lke the graphics, then they can choose not to play the game. But a game shouldn't be judged on its graphics alone; that's my point.

I completely agree with that. Graphics don't make or break a game. It's important to look at the game as a whole, mainly asking yourself, "Is this game enjoyable?" That is what truly determines the quality of a game.

As for asking for help, I agree that when you ask for help, not to complain because no one is giving it to you. It isn't just because you asked, someone will come to service you. Ace made a great analogy.

And to answer CoolZidane's question, I would play any game compelling to play, even if there were no graphics at all. Why do you think people enjoy text-based games?

[Ace of Spades]

Graphics don't really matter to me. I mean, look at the original Mario. Crappy graphics, but amazing game.

[blackskullwarlock]

Graphics might not matter to you but they sure as hell matters to the rest of the world! Most of my friends hate very good games because of bad graphics...including the classics like Donkey Kong and Mario Bros.

[GhostClown]

Maybe if you guy's start practicing instead of requesting, you'll be able to sprite for your own game aswell..  

I understand getting some help, but you can't expect it all..

[coasterkrazy]

Originally posted by blackskullwarlock
Graphics might not matter to you but they sure as hell matters to the rest of the world! Most of my friends hate very good games because of bad graphics...including the classics like Donkey Kong and Mario Bros.

I know a lot of people who are like that.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Thats pretty bad to me. I know a guy that refuses to play any gamecube game because he doesnt think they are good as PS2 or XBOX. But he looks at the maximum system compatability for this, not the games. He doesn't realize, rarely do PS2, XBOX games use the ful power of it. That close mindedness bugs the hell outta me.

[InsaneJP]

wow this thread got alot of attention while i was away....well i see everyones points of view and technically everyone is right in their own way....yes there are people that spam up the place with requests and yes alot of people help people more once they get to know them....thats what i do most of time too....and yes if your going to ask for a request you need to know how to ask and finally YES people need to stop requestsing before they try doing it themselves...i bet alot of these people who request are very capable of makin a decent character or somthing that they want....who said it had to be perfect??......To help people with sprite battle character requests i made a few templates so people could learn how to do it themselves and other templates are not hard to find.....to tell you the truth im thinking of making a thread that im gunna teach people how to make a character from a naked body....just so they can see what they can do....if anyone thinks i shouldnt tell me soon before i make the thread

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

This calls for some spriting tutorials. *plans to*

[InsaneJP]

Kijuki....im way ahead of you lol im in the process of showing them how to make a character....im doing the screenshots now i already have like 16 !

[Bobb]

I agree with alot of you. If I can I always try...It's just I'm not very good. lol. But I usually do my best to help.

[PyroAlchemist]

I'm am currently making myself useful and practising my chara graphics and all of that. I'd be glad to help anyone in any way I could though. I can't guarante much but I try. Hmm I think I should work on my spelling though I have no idea if a couple of these things are spelled right.