Pearl Harbor

[Meiscool-2]

Yes, it's all a big complex of supply and demand equations. More money = more demand and more supply, so really, getting out of dept and etc will not increase the money supply at all. Also, America has one of the best governments in the world. I'm sick of people like you blaming all problems on the government. Sure, they waste money, but at least that wasted money gets put to use unlike several other places that leave their money to rot and waste it on exports/imports.

In my personal opinion though, we should be taxed more. Bill Cliton did it, and he was bringing us out of this god-forsaken debt you speak of. So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.

In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.

[Drighton]

Originally posted by Meiscool
Yes, it's all a big complex of supply and demand equations. More money = more demand and more supply, so really, getting out of dept and etc will not increase the money supply at all. Also, America has one of the best governments in the world. I'm sick of people like you blaming all problems on the government. Sure, they waste money, but at least that wasted money gets put to use unlike several other places that leave their money to rot and waste it on exports/imports.

In my personal opinion though, we should be taxed more. Bill Cliton did it, and he was bringing us out of this god-forsaken debt you speak of. So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.

In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.

   

[Darkfox]

Japan has a bundle of holidays don't it?

[drenrin2120]

Originally posted by Meiscool
Yes, it's all a big complex of supply and demand equations. More money = more demand and more supply, so really, getting out of dept and etc will not increase the money supply at all. Also, America has one of the best governments in the world. I'm sick of people like you blaming all problems on the government. Sure, they waste money, but at least that wasted money gets put to use unlike several other places that leave their money to rot and waste it on exports/imports.

In my personal opinion though, we should be taxed more. Bill Cliton did it, and he was bringing us out of this god-forsaken debt you speak of. So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.

In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.

I msut admit, it really isn't the government that's the problem, when I said government I was implying the politicians. When george Washington was president, that was probably the most honestly the government was ever run. But sicne then, we've grown so large and have elected too many corrupt politicians.

But I'd definitely say they spend money on personal expenses (some politicians) and that is sickening. Like, vacations to ireland , all expenses paid. Or to the caribbean via private jet. Just total greed right there.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by drenrin2120

quote:

Originally posted by Meiscool In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.

I msut admit, it really isn't the government that's the problem, when I said government I was implying the politicians. When george Washington was president, that was probably the most honestly the government was ever run. But sicne then, we've grown so large and have elected too many corrupt politicians.

But I'd definitely say they spend money on personal expenses (some politicians) and that is sickening. Like, vacations to ireland , all expenses paid. Or to the caribbean via private jet. Just total greed right there.

In that case, blame the spenders. Yes, corruption is a problem everywhere, big woot to that. However, personal expenses you've got all wrong, Sure, they are a waste of money, but not our money so to say. Each place gets a set ammout of money from the FED banks closest to them to spend over the year. If that money isn't used, then it goes back into next years FED. In all honesty, it's better to use the money then to send it back to the FED. Plus, private flights and etc arn't cheap. Those do add to our econmic stature, though not as much as the nations the vacations are payed in.

I'm not saying what they do is good or just, but it's not nearly as bad as you'd think and is very ordinary.

Edit- Also, in the times of Washington and etc, the government was corrupt too. Not as badly, but several things were done. The most important one was the "anti-war" acts, which made the people protest against the war purely to seem like a peace-loving nation while we were kicking the Brits and Frenchies asses.

[drenrin2120]

Originally posted by Meiscool

quote:

Originally posted by drenrin2120 quote: Originally posted by Meiscool In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans. I msut admit, it really isn't the government that's the problem, when I said government I was implying the politicians. When george Washington was president, that was probably the most honestly the government was ever run. But sicne then, we've grown so large and have elected too many corrupt politicians. But I'd definitely say they spend money on personal expenses (some politicians) and that is sickening. Like, vacations to ireland , all expenses paid. Or to the caribbean via private jet. Just total greed right there.

In that case, blame the spenders. Yes, corruption is a problem everywhere, big woot to that. However, personal expenses you've got all wrong, Sure, they are a waste of money, but not our money so to say. Each place gets a set ammout of money from the FED banks closest to them to spend over the year. If that money isn't used, then it goes back into next years FED. In all honesty, it's better to use the money then to send it back to the FED. Plus, private flights and etc arn't cheap. Those do add to our econmic stature, though not as much as the nations the vacations are payed in.

I'm not saying what they do is good or just, but it's not nearly as bad as you'd think and is very ordinary.

Yeah, I can understand that. Maybe the News exaggerates things. But there has been a rise in like, scandals and sh!t which can be very dismaying. But I get what you're saying. Nowadays, it's pretty much impossible to avoid corruptino in most every kind of system.

[Almeidaboo]

Originally posted by Drighton
I think your a few months behind buddy.

But no, this is a "day of infamy" as it was once put. I don't put a lot of emphasis on it, but some people do. It isn't really a celebration, but a day of memorial for the events of the past and those who died on this day.

quote:

Originally posted by Almeidaboo Iīm not from the States...i canīt really say anything! But donīt think I didnīt notice your thread buddy!

Can't say I really know how to take this comment, so

LOL!...Well, I meant that, even though I couldnīt say anything about it, Iīd post for supporting lol...

[AsakuraHao2004]

yesterday, december 7th, 1941, a date which will live in infamy, the us was deliberaty attacked by the naval forces of the empire of Japan..

or something like that.

Pearl Harbor is a KICK *** movie, because the special effects are awesome.

[MrMister]

Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
yesterday, december 7th, 1941, a date which will live in infamy, the us was deliberaty attacked by the naval forces of the empire of Japan..

or something like that.

Pearl Harbor is a KICK *** movie, because the special effects are awesome.

Anything that has Ben Affleck in it(excluding Kevin Smith films): INSTANTLY UNWATCHABLE.

[coasterkrazy]

I know this was from the last page, but I missed this topic and just wanted to comment:

If I remember correctly, Christmas gets its date (and the tree I think, but not the star obviously) from the pagan holiday of Saturnalia, which is somehow related to celebrating Saturn or something. Kind of ironic when you think about it.

As for the name Christmas, (another if I remember correctly) Xmas was the original Greek name (pronounced Ich-thus) which means fish (or something related to fish) which is where the fish symbol comes from. I think the fish was a sort of "code" if you will to mean Christ Jesus without people who didn't know knowing.

I hope I got that at least somewhat accurate from what I remember from about... 2-4 years ago.

[Tomi]

Originally posted by Drighton
I should note that Easter is supposedly the celebration of Jesus' death.

Actually, it is the celebration of his resurection.  So yeah.  

Originally posted by Meiscool
So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.

*coughdemocratsfillibusteringeverythinginsighttowastetimeandmoneywhiletryingtomakerepublicanslookbadsotheycansaythatnothinggotdoneunderbushadministrationcough*

*whew...*

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by Tomi

quote:

Originally posted by Drighton I should note that Easter is supposedly the celebration of Jesus' death.

Actually, it is the celebration of his resurection.  So yeah.  

quote:

Originally posted by Meiscool So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.

*coughdemocratsfillibusteringeverythinginsighttowastetimeandmoneywhiletryingtomakerepublicanslookbadsotheycansaythatnothinggotdoneunderbushadministrationcough*

*whew...*

Hey, that was a pretty funny joke. But, on all seriousness, you can't possibly say that the fact that congress is lower taxes rapidly isn't the cause of constant pressure on the President's part.

[Ace of Spades]

Wow... just. *sigh* First of all, some people are forgetting that Pearl Harbor is NOT a national holiday. It is a remembrance day. Basically, we have these because unlike some countries, we thank our veterans for serving our country.
And Drace, Europe is the whole reason WWI happened, so you better shut up. Obviously it wasn't Britain or anyone else's fault, but when you keep saying "Europe has endured worse" just keep in mind that a conflict between Serbia and Austria Hungary caused an event that pretty much made everything after it screwed up. So instead of blaming the US gov't, Republicans, God, or anyone else who people are blaming just so that they have someone to blame, blame the Black Hand and the Serbian Nationalist who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand and his wife, which was the big spark that caused WWI. Let's see, according to the logic of "If this didn't happen things would be a lot better and different," if that wouldn't have happened, these are the following that most likely wouldn't have happened either.
- WWI
   - Treaty of Versailles which pretty much f*cked Germany over
     - Rising of Hitler
       - WWII
          - Jewish Concentration Camps
          - Pearl Harbor
            - A-Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
          - Jews basically stealing Muslim land
          - Cold War
          - Vietnam War (Actually, this might have happened still)
          - Muslim Terrorist groups forming because Jews stole their
            land
          - America rebuilding Japan after bombing them
            - Computer technology (It might've though)
          - 9/11
          - War on Terrorism
          - Iraq War
And I won't say gas prices wouldn't have gone up because the oil companies (OPEC in particular) are a bunch of greedy dicks and it would've gone up somehow. But that's the logic of "if this didn't happen all this wouldn't have happened either. But some other crap most likely would've happened anyway, so it's best to just throw that theory into the garbage.

But anyway, on the topic of this thread, Pearl Harbor doesn't have great importance to me, but I do take a moment to remember those who died. And also, Pearl Harbor sucked... and I love you.

[Tomi]

Hey, that was a pretty funny joke.

No joke.

But, on all seriousness, you can't possibly say that the fact that congress is lower taxes rapidly isn't the cause of constant pressure on the President's part.

And the rise in taxes during the Clinton Administration had nothing to do with pressure from Clinton.  

And Amen to Ace.  

[Drighton]

Originally posted by coasterkrazy
I know this was from the last page, but I missed this topic and just wanted to comment:

If I remember correctly, Christmas gets its date (and the tree I think, but not the star obviously) from the pagan holiday of Saturnalia, which is somehow related to celebrating Saturn or something. Kind of ironic when you think about it.

As for the name Christmas, (another if I remember correctly) Xmas was the original Greek name (pronounced Ich-thus) which means fish (or something related to fish) which is where the fish symbol comes from. I think the fish was a sort of "code" if you will to mean Christ Jesus without people who didn't know knowing.

I hope I got that at least somewhat accurate from what I remember from about... 2-4 years ago.

That sounds about right. And don't worry about on-topic-ness (see bottom)

Originally posted by Tomi
Actually, it is the celebration of his resurection.  So yeah.

Whats funny is that I knew/know that, yet I still F'ed it up.

Originally posted by Ace of Spades
But anyway, on the topic of this thread, Pearl Harbor doesn't have great importance to me, but I do take a moment to remember those who died. And also, Pearl Harbor sucked... and I love you.

Thanks Ace. It was getting pretty hard to explain that.

Second, this thread hardly has a topic, nor was it intended to have one. Thats right, it is a topicless thread, which is how the topic seems to have changed a few times. Anyways, you guys carry on and I'll jump back in tomorrow.