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Offline Revolution911

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« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2006, 04:06:37 PM »
Look boy, dont get literal on me >/

YOU GET WHAT IM SAYING!

Make the fsking hero want to destroy the world/kingdom/person for HIS OWN WANTS. Make it so if he sees a villager getting killed, HE HELPS KILL THE BASTARD. Dont make hime one of those "Oh I must destroy the world to purify it." I hate those guys.

Edit: Yeah I dont want to get into the whole good/evil thing. BUT MY OPINION: Good and evil are opinions. There are no morals set in stone for us to follow. FOR EXAMPLE: Hitler is seen as this madman who hated jews, but he saw it as ridding the world of demons and such. IT DOESENT JUSTIFY WHAT HE DID, but its a point im trying to make >.>
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« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2006, 04:46:18 PM »
 Your avatar doesn't helps that much.

 But yeah, I see what you're saying, I just like to annoy you.
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« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2006, 04:53:30 PM »
A game hero shouldn't be overly good anymore. He should be neutral or evil.
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« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2006, 06:56:35 PM »
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Your avatar doesn't helps that much.

 But yeah, I see what you're saying, I just like to annoy you.

My avatar isnt meant to represent the nazi. Look up what a swatsika actually stands for  =/
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« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2006, 06:59:29 PM »
 I know that, just estatementinting and estatemenmentmentwahtevah.
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« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2006, 08:57:38 PM »
I say make a game where the hero is just a random object from the game. Like a box of matches. He sits there for days, never fights anyone, and watches the goodie fight the baddie. Duh End
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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2006, 08:20:31 PM »
Personally, I like heroes who are mysterious and their past is never revealed very clearly and upfront.

I also like heroes with reasonable powers. The powers must also be extremely unique. Such as the abiity to warp reality.
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« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2006, 02:50:08 AM »
Hmm...well, I think Ace's idea is the closest one to what I had in mind.

Anyways, thanks to everyone for your input.  I'm sure that this info. will help me out.  ^^'
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« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2006, 06:22:37 AM »
I should have commented on this earlier.

A real hero isn't someone who gets forced into anything. If some guy has his village burned down and has people trying to kill them, and he fights back, that's not heroism. That's a survival instinct. There's no way to "quit" that sort of thing save from dying. A real hero should have plenty of opportunties to turn back, to give up, but he doesn't. Even if it's the end of the world that doesn't mean the hero has to do it. He can sit back and wait for someone else to handle it, or just not care.

An even better hero is the type that does something dangerous when he is not in danger himself because it's the right thing to do. This is one of the reasons I like Chrono Trigger. Lavos destroys the world in 1999. Crono, Marle, and Lucca are living in 1000. They'll be long dead before Lavos strikes. But they set out to stop him. Why? Because it's their world, darn it, and it's the right thing to do. That's heroism.
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« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2006, 09:52:06 PM »
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I should have commented on this earlier.

A real hero isn't someone who gets forced into anything. If some guy has his village burned down and has people trying to kill them, and he fights back, that's not heroism. That's a survival instinct. There's no way to "quit" that sort of thing save from dying. A real hero should have plenty of opportunties to turn back, to give up, but he doesn't. Even if it's the end of the world that doesn't mean the hero has to do it. He can sit back and wait for someone else to handle it, or just not care.

An even better hero is the type that does something dangerous when he is not in danger himself because it's the right thing to do. This is one of the reasons I like Chrono Trigger. Lavos destroys the world in 1999. Crono, Marle, and Lucca are living in 1000. They'll be long dead before Lavos strikes. But they set out to stop him. Why? Because it's their world, darn it, and it's the right thing to do. That's heroism.


This' exacly why iīm more into anti-heroes...The ones that arenīt strong or responsible, that looks into the girls breats and mock the villains...Like Yusuke, from Yu Yu hakusho.
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« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2006, 10:13:04 PM »
I like dante better than any other hero. He like...does things for himself more so than doing it for anyone else.
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« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2006, 10:31:46 PM »
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me personally, I don't like perfect heros.

I like flawed personalities that overcome seemingly impossible odds.
I like stories I can identify with.


well when games/stories have characters, they have their ownn personalites. If someone is all perfect, no one can relate to that character because no one's perfect (no matter what some think)

So it's good to have an array of personalities that anyone could pick a feeling or an emmotion they share with that character. In essence, they build a relationship with that character.

well. to put it in two words:

Conflict. Sacrifice.

Now what makes one "just" in this theory is if the effort is put towards a common good and not a selfish one.

well there are levels of heroism.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hero
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check those beans.





ok there you go. EVERYTHING everyones said.

is like in my posts.....if you need to find em they're like...on PAGE ONE

...so ignored.
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« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2006, 10:48:12 PM »
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An even better hero is the type that does something dangerous when he is not in danger himself because it's the right thing to do. This is one of the reasons I like Chrono Trigger. Lavos destroys the world in 1999. Crono, Marle, and Lucca are living in 1000. They'll be long dead before Lavos strikes. But they set out to stop him. Why? Because it's their world, darn it, and it's the right thing to do. That's heroism.


Chrono Trigger is my favorite game, and it would've been more my favorite is the characters didn't suck so much.

Marle "Crono, save meeeeeeeeeeeee!"

Crono: *blank screen* *Sword slashed out pose*

I get sick of games that never have the main character say anything. Oh:

Magus: I'm an efil mage and I'm gonna cast a spell on you Glen!

Glen: Oh noes I've froggerized!

WTF!? The most evil man in the word turned a guy into a fricken frog. That's what fairy tales are for.

And lastly.... how the heck does a sword slash an entire moutain in half to reveal a cave? It doesn't make sence.....
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« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2006, 12:24:36 AM »
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An even better hero is the type that does something dangerous when he is not in danger himself because it's the right thing to do. This is one of the reasons I like Chrono Trigger. Lavos destroys the world in 1999. Crono, Marle, and Lucca are living in 1000. They'll be long dead before Lavos strikes. But they set out to stop him. Why? Because it's their world, darn it, and it's the right thing to do. That's heroism.


Chrono Trigger is my favorite game, and it would've been more my favorite is the characters didn't suck so much.

Marle "Crono, save meeeeeeeeeeeee!"

Crono: *blank screen* *Sword slashed out pose*

I get sick of games that never have the main character say anything. Oh:

Magus: I'm an efil mage and I'm gonna cast a spell on you Glen!

Glen: Oh noes I've froggerized!

WTF!? The most evil man in the word turned a guy into a fricken frog. That's what fairy tales are for.

And lastly.... how the heck does a sword slash an entire moutain in half to reveal a cave? It doesn't make sence.....

XD in some ways I agree with you. But for the make sense part, when do most games make sense? There's an island that floats in the sky in your game, right? How does that make sense?
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« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2006, 12:28:47 AM »
A hero is an opinoin! It matters what side you are on for the 5 billionth time.
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