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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: DragonBlaze on May 08, 2013, 01:20:18 AM

Title: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 08, 2013, 01:20:18 AM
Charas Chain Game: Wrath of Gaia
Started in May of last year, Wrath of Gaia is the latest in a line of charas chain games. The game features a band of unlikely heroes fighting desperately to restore a world they broke. In their epic adventure full of clever puns, terrible jokes, and insiders Charas lore, they will face scary *** monsters, capture and train Bagmon, and if you're lucky, you may even see them ride a ****ing tiger. One thing's for sure, it's a game you don't want to miss.

Progress:

Standard Edition: COMPLETE

Final Edition: In progress.

Everyone has completed their chapters, but the final version is still not complete. The game is currently full of bugs, missing assets, and is horribly unbalanced. Now that all the chapters are complete, we will have to go back and tidy some things up. Stay tuned for updates on the final version!


Credits:

1. DragonBlaze
2. Momeka
3. Moosetroop11
4. Prpl_Mage
5. Fisherson
6. Momeka
7. DragonBlaze
8. Moosetroop11
9. Prpl_Mage

Chain Game Bug/Defect List:

This is a google doc with a list of all the defects found thus far. If you notice any bugs/defects, please add it to this spreadsheet so that we are tracking them and can go back and fix them.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtbXu5aZ9PgydDluVS1ZQU92dm5zM2lYZC1OR2ZIZXc&usp=sharing



Game on!

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Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 08, 2013, 02:04:19 AM
Woho, chapter 2 please.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 08, 2013, 05:57:52 AM
It's not a big deal that it's in the wrong board, this is not the game but rather a sign up to me so go for it.

Also, give me week 3 or 4 please.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 08, 2013, 12:41:18 PM
Sign me up. I ain't missin' out this time.

Put me in the earliest available slot so I'm not waiting for yeeears.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 08, 2013, 01:03:33 PM
So does anyone have a suggestion for the theme of the game? The last chain game I was a part of was a comedy, which was alright, but I'm not a natural comedian, so I vote we try to make a serious game with as much added humor as each person wants.

Also does anyone have a huge preference to use a modern or futuristic setting? If not, I'll go ahead and start with the more traditional medieval fantasy setting. 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 08, 2013, 01:45:31 PM
I'll take chapter 5. Theme does not matter to me. I'm totally just going with the flow on this. I will not object to anything really. Unless it's stupid.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 08, 2013, 04:01:29 PM
Well, last time we tried a steampunk game but it kinda seemed like people felt that they needed more resources or something.

I'm open for anything, and I'm okay with people bending the rules a little. or much, don't matter much to me as long as the game is fun to play.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 08, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
The reason I didn't suggest a theme is because themes can be very limiting resource-wise. I like the idea of sci-fi, but that's very limiting.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 08, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Yeah, I'm noticing it's hard enough to find resources, especially battle chars, for a 'normal' game. I started mapping with normal medieval fantasy tilesets for that reason.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 09, 2013, 06:54:38 PM
Before I go into a rant about using the Force to subtly make you guys make another Chain Game with RPG Maker 2003, boo yah!!, I want Chapter 6! You WILL add me to this. *Waves hand* Also love the new rules. A deadline will be very helpful to motivate people to keep on focus.

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Yeah, I'm noticing it's hard enough to find resources, especially battle chars, for a 'normal' game. I started mapping with normal medieval fantasy tilesets for that reason. 

My usual offers stands: Free battle Sprites as long as they're sprite size or a template I'm familiar with. 

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So does anyone have a suggestion for the theme of the game? The last chain game I was a part of was a comedy, which was alright, but I'm not a natural comedian, so I vote we try to make a serious game with as much added humor as each person wants.

I'm quite fond of Dramedy. Comedy plus drama, but honestly a theme isn't super importat. I say we do what we did in first game: A little humor here and there and a Kitchen Sink Fantasy World http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasyKitchenSink (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasyKitchenSink) where we can do what we want. Maximized creativity and allows us to use any chipset we want.

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I'm open for anything, and I'm okay with people bending the rules a little. or much, don't matter much to me as long as the game is fun to play.

This is the right attitude to have! ^_^ What are rules anyway? This is fantasy and a game! There are no rules!  :D

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: SaiKar on May 09, 2013, 07:14:21 PM
Oh, it's in 2k3? That's unexpected.

... huh. I'm tempted to not want a chapter but, like, draw bchars for it or something. But only tempted at the moment.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on May 09, 2013, 10:13:00 PM
So be it! I'll take Ch9.


Why? Because I like 9.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 10, 2013, 02:59:42 PM
So be it! I'll take Ch9.


Why? Because I like 9.

BLuman! Where have you been? When I returned to Charas I was so saddened not to see one post by you in YEARS! For shame! *Points the finger of shame* ...Also when did you get boobs?
Oh, it's in 2k3? That's unexpected.

... huh. I'm tempted to not want a chapter but, like, draw bchars for it or something. But only tempted at the moment.

*Tries to turn the tempt into pure want with the Force and high roll*

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: lonewolf on May 11, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
10.do me if thats ok with you

i not to good on my spelling so i can help by maps and charaset and sound and music all i need is a list of thing's to find
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 11, 2013, 04:40:16 PM
If you choose number 10 you'll need to be able to spell etc Lonewolf; you'll be doing the tenth and final part of the game. If you only want to provide resources and don't want to make part of the game, you might not wanna put yourself down for a section?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 12, 2013, 03:32:18 AM
If we don't find anyone else I'm up for a 5 - 6 chapters long game. It won't be the longest game out there but I'd say this is more about the process than the outcome.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 12, 2013, 04:10:25 AM
Well, we have fish for chapter 6 and bluhman for chapter 9 so at least 7 chapters so far.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 12, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
I would absolutely love to get involved! I don't finish uni for a couple more weeks, but could you reserve a slot for me later on?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 12, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
Well, we have fish for chapter 6 and bluhman for chapter 9 so at least 7 chapters so far.

Yay! ^o^ I got the chapter! Sweet! You guys won't regret this! Have decided on a battle character style?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 13, 2013, 12:37:38 AM
Yay we have 8 (maybe 9) people so far :D

Lonewolf, it would probably be best if you did chapter 7 instead of 10 if you can't spell very well. Usually endings have a lot of text to wrap everything up, but if one of the middle chapters didn't have much text, it's not a big deal.

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Yay! ^o^ I got the chapter! Sweet! You guys won't regret this! Have decided on a battle character style?

No, but I'm leaning towards using battle chars made from the characters actual character sprite. I can actually make those look decent, otherwise I can only rip the sprite from a site and change colors :/

To be honest, I have around 30 maps created, and a (what I think is awesome) setting for the game, but not a single character or battle thought of yet.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 13, 2013, 07:01:43 AM
Could I make my chapter.... completely insane? :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 13, 2013, 09:57:18 AM
Could I make my chapter.... completely insane? :)

That's kind of a thing these days. Like the LCD-trip chapter in lolipop chainsaw.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 13, 2013, 11:07:39 AM
That's kind of a thing these days. Like the LCD-trip chapter in lolipop chainsaw.

Haha you can make your chapter however you want :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 13, 2013, 12:33:02 PM
Yay we have 8 (maybe 9) people so far :D

Lonewolf, it would probably be best if you did chapter 7 instead of 10 if you can't spell very well. Usually endings have a lot of text to wrap everything up, but if one of the middle chapters didn't have much text, it's not a big deal.

No, but I'm leaning towards using battle chars made from the characters actual character sprite. I can actually make those look decent, otherwise I can only rip the sprite from a site and change colors :/

To be honest, I have around 30 maps created, and a (what I think is awesome) setting for the game, but not a single character or battle thought of yet.

Battle Sprite battlers! Yes! Tried and true method! ^_^ Awesome! I'm almost afraid to move in case this is my dream and I'll wake up at any second! O.o Wait...I understand not having the characters all thought out, honestly
that can be the more difficult part. If I can see the sprites I can give some character suggestions but I have to ask why think of a battle? That's what loads of random monsters and Fiend Inc are for! ...Well was for till that show off Hector
and his band of merry men smashed it up. T_T All those poor Chompas! Waaaaah! ToT

Could I make my chapter.... completely insane? :)

No! It must be sane and believable because that's what everyone wants to play these days. Sane and believable games with realistic characters and magic, violence or sexually suggestive material.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 13, 2013, 01:01:30 PM
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Battle Sprite battlers! Yes! Tried and true method! ^_^ Awesome! I'm almost afraid to move in case this is my dream and I'll wake up at any second! O.o Wait...I understand not having the characters all thought out, honestly
that can be the more difficult part. If I can see the sprites I can give some character suggestions but I have to ask why think of a battle? That's what loads of random monsters and Fiend Inc are for! ...Well was for till that show off Hector
and his band of merry men smashed it up. T_T All those poor Chompas! Waaaaah! ToT

Well I have 2 characters and a story thought up now, I may try to introduce a third character, but since I'm only working on chapter 1, two characters will probably be good. I pretty much have all the battle graphics for the one character already made, but her sprite is in the form of multiple charsets instead of battle sets. I haven't picked out a sprite for the other character yet, but I should soon and I can send you the graphics by the end of the day, along with a short description of them.

... I have a feeling that this is going to the the best f***ed up game ever :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 13, 2013, 03:56:55 PM
Forgot to link to the LCD trip in lolipop chainsaw.

Lollipop Chainsaw | Playthrough Part 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alXV-wop23o#ws)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 13, 2013, 09:19:39 PM
I can't wait to see how everyone's creativity merges together to make one horrific cluster-f*** of insanity!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 14, 2013, 06:16:33 AM
Hows it going? I'm pretty hyped about this.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 14, 2013, 10:43:17 AM
Hows it going? I'm pretty hyped about this.

It's coming along pretty well. I don't really know when I started working on my chapter though >.< It started with playing around with rm2k3 again while people were signing up, then I stopped for several days to see if anyone wanted to take the game in a certain direction. Then I started again on Sunday night. So I'll get the game to you by Sunday lol :p

I may have gone a bit overboard with my chapter...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 14, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
I may have gone a bit overboard with my chapter...

Overboard is good as long as it's not postponed.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 14, 2013, 08:25:19 PM
Well I have 2 characters and a story thought up now, I may try to introduce a third character, but since I'm only working on chapter 1, two characters will probably be good. I pretty much have all the battle graphics for the one character already made, but her sprite is in the form of multiple charsets instead of battle sets. I haven't picked out a sprite for the other character yet, but I should soon and I can send you the graphics by the end of the day, along with a short description of them.

... I have a feeling that this is going to the the best f***ed up game ever :)

Two characters isn't bad but a cast is does not make. ^^; Though I suppose people can fill in the party as we go along? That's the way most of my chain games went. Though I do hope we don't have game where everyone adds
a character, just maybe at most the two starting, then your typical healer, tank, non-human and such.

I may have gone a bit overboard with my chapter...

That would actually be refreshing. Too many chapters are just push start and a few minutes later your done. It should properly set up whatever story it has to tell...before we blow it to heck XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 14, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
Surprised no one said anything about me since I kinda sparked this chain game lol.  I'm busy screwing around with my own game at the moment, BUT if you all want you could use some of my music in it.  Just credit.... Daoman: Some of the songs.  You can listen to a few of them through my Sacrosanct topic or Creative Arts topic.  Just lemme know if you'd like to use one or a few :).  Now I don't seem like so much as a dick hahaha
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 15, 2013, 12:06:53 AM
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Two characters isn't bad but a cast is does not make. ^^; Though I suppose people can fill in the party as we go along? That's the way most of my chain games went. Though I do hope we don't have game where everyone adds
a character, just maybe at most the two starting, then your typical healer, tank, non-human and such.

Very true, I'm hoping people in the other chapters add more characters. If I have time to work another character in, I may do that though. :) If you're still down for making battlechars, should I just post the charsets here?

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That would actually be refreshing. Too many chapters are just push start and a few minutes later your done. It should properly set up whatever story it has to tell...before we blow it to heck XD

I'm not very good at making funny games that are actually funny >.< So I'm starting with something serious with some funny characters, but the plot should let people take the story anywhere you want :)

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Surprised no one said anything about me since I kinda sparked this chain game lol.  I'm busy screwing around with my own game at the moment, BUT if you all want you could use some of my music in it.  Just credit.... Daoman: Some of the songs.  You can listen to a few of them through my Sacrosanct topic or Creative Arts topic.  Just lemme know if you'd like to use one or a few .  Now I don't seem like so much as a dick hahaha

Sorry daoman! To be honest, when I wrote this thread I wasn't really (remotely) sober, so I forgot to give ya the credit :( Are you sure you don't want chapter 7 or 10? It'll be at least 7 weeks from now, so maybe you'll be able to find some time then. Otherwise it'd be awesome if your music was in the game!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 15, 2013, 07:11:05 AM
I'm not worried about that haha, i was just thinking... "nobody's asked why I didn't want a chapter when I asked why people don't make a teamed effort one".  It's not so much a time issue, it's more of a motivation issue hahaha.  But who knows, maybe I'll change my mind.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 15, 2013, 12:01:55 PM
I'm not worried about that haha, i was just thinking... "nobody's asked why I didn't want a chapter when I asked why people don't make a teamed effort one".  It's not so much a time issue, it's more of a motivation issue hahaha.  But who knows, maybe I'll change my mind.

You kinda just have to sign up for a chapter. I don't think anyone was asked.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: lonewolf on May 15, 2013, 12:34:18 PM
If you choose number 10 you'll need to be able to spell etc Lonewolf; you'll be doing the tenth and final part of the game. If you only want to provide resources and don't want to make part of the game, you might not wanna put yourself down for a section?

ok i help you all out if you want me to with provide resources if that's ok with you all as i am not to good at spelling
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 15, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
ok i help you all out if you want me to with provide resources if that's ok with you all as i no i not good at spelling

What type of resources would you like to provide or make?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 15, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
You kinda just have to sign up for a chapter. I don't think anyone was asked.

>.> *Whistles non-nonchalantly* Nah it's true. You have to just choose one and run like the wind before they have time to call the Charas Drones! o_o;

What type of resources would you like to provide or make?

*Does a double take* With Lonewolf the question isn't what can he find, but what can he NOT find? XD He's like resource wizzard! Allot of my good maps came from him, tons of my good charasets and even some of my monsters!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 15, 2013, 03:06:22 PM
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*Does a double take* With Lonewolf the question isn't what can he find, but what can he NOT find? XD He's like resource wizzard! Allot of my good maps came from him, tons of my good charasets and even some of my monsters!

Haha, well I happen to need a broken bottle battle weapon for a sprite sized battle char. Does something like that exist?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 15, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
Double posting like a bad ***.

Anyway these are the two main characters I have thus far. If anyone can find or make battle chars and face sets for them, that would be awesome. For the male character, I'm using the second one from the left, but I'm defiantly okay for heavy modifications for how the character looks. For the female character, I have lots of battle poses and a sample faceset, but again, I'm okay with modifications if it makes making graphics easier.

BTW Daoman, your music is awesome, I would love to use some in the game!

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/customsaver82_zps32460acc.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/customsaver82_zps32460acc.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/yara_zps6c40a151.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/yara_zps6c40a151.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3a_zps99815cb5.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3a_zps99815cb5.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3acca_zps2ceaf629.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3acca_zps2ceaf629.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3b_zps2cb792c2.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3b_zps2cb792c2.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3accb_zps2293d3d2.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3accb_zps2293d3d2.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/SFfaces_zpsa33ec404.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/SFfaces_zpsa33ec404.png.html)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 16, 2013, 12:46:48 AM
I'll give the male guy a shot, anyone else can as well of course. Then we'll just pick the one we like the most.

Sprite sized? And a neutral attack pose I suppose? One that will work with any added weapon rather than a complete custom one.

Tomorrow, I will have to give this a go tomorrow.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Meiscool on May 16, 2013, 01:03:44 AM
Can someone record themselves playing each chapter? When they come out of course.

I feel it would make a great front page post, as well as be an enjoyable watch.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 16, 2013, 07:38:31 AM
I hope people push their chapter in the most outlandish way possible. I've seen a million and one dialogue-heavy rm2k3 games before, and I'm
hoping people put in some crazy mini-games, weird stories and scenery, etc, and really push the boat out in terms of rm2k3. That would be awesome!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 16, 2013, 09:23:15 AM
Then you'll probably like what I have planned.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 16, 2013, 11:38:28 AM
I'll give the male guy a shot, anyone else can as well of course. Then we'll just pick the one we like the most.

Sprite sized? And a neutral attack pose I suppose? One that will work with any added weapon rather than a complete custom one.

Tomorrow, I will have to give this a go tomorrow.

I was thinking sprite sized and neutral attack pose, only because I'm assuming that will be the quickest and easiest. Though if someone really wants to make full sized battle chars, I'm down for that as well.

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Can someone record themselves playing each chapter? When they come out of course.

I feel it would make a great front page post, as well as be an enjoyable watch.

Like gameplay highlights or what?

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I hope people push their chapter in the most outlandish way possible. I've seen a million and one dialogue-heavy rm2k3 games before, and I'm
hoping people put in some crazy mini-games, weird stories and scenery, etc, and really push the boat out in terms of rm2k3. That would be awesome!

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Then you'll probably like what I have planned.

Awesome :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 16, 2013, 12:19:47 PM
I envy you artists.  I wish I could draw, paint etc.

And just an fyi, my songs are in mp3 format, but i can probably shrink it down to a low quality file if you decide to use any.  Forgot to mention that in case MBs is an issue lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 16, 2013, 12:30:22 PM
I envy you artists.  I wish I could draw, paint etc.

And just an fyi, my songs are in mp3 format, but i can probably shrink it down to a low quality file if you decide to use any.  Forgot to mention that in case MBs is an issue lol

I don't think that will be an issue. Pretty much everyone has fast internet these days, so as long as it's not hundreds of MBs, it shouldn't be an issue. I have a fast server that we can upload big files too as well if we need to.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 16, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
All righty.  Another issue with MP3s is looping during gameplay.  It doesn't loop like it should like the midis do.  Unless there's a way to fix that, feel free to let me know! :D

I also recommend downloading the David or Goliath patch. 

I also think I would regret it if I didn't do a chapter, so I'll be happy to do chapter 8 or 9 if nobody called dibs.  I just need to know exactly how a chain game is properly made since I am new to it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: lonewolf on May 16, 2013, 04:11:03 PM
What type of resources would you like to provide or make?

chipset and charasets  if you post up some art i see what i can do
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 16, 2013, 04:19:46 PM
All righty.  Another issue with MP3s is looping during gameplay.  It doesn't loop like it should like the midis do.  Unless there's a way to fix that, feel free to let me know! :D

I also recommend downloading the David or Goliath patch. 

I also think I would regret it if I didn't do a chapter, so I'll be happy to do chapter 8 or 9 if nobody called dibs.  I just need to know exactly how a chain game is properly made since I am new to it.

Hmm I never knew about the looping issue.. If it's an issue, we can try to make them in midi format. What is the David or Goliath patch?

Bluhman called a hard dibs on chapter 9. Zuhane currently has 8, but he just said he wanted a later chapter, so we can probably switch him to one of the open chapters (7 or 10) and move you to 8. :)

I don't think there is a 'propor' way to make a chain game. When a person gets the game from a previous person, there will be some amount of chapters created that people have already made. The rules are simply work on the game for a week and create a new chapter, take the story and game absolutely anywhere you want (it's okay to go crazy). When you're done working on it, just zip it up and pass it on to the next person. There's no rules on themes, characters, settings, etc. The only rule essentially is to work on it for a week then pass it on, and don't modify pervious people's chapters unless you need to tweak their maps so they are usable in your chapter or if you need to fix bugs.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 16, 2013, 04:47:49 PM
I'll take the open ones that people haven't called dibs on, but not 10 cause i feel like the ending chapter is a lot of pressure lol. 

The two patches are essentially the same thing, just that David works for people with smaller screen resolution computers.  Basically they expand certain things you can do, such as monster stats and Experience Points.  I'll post a link that explains what it does.  http://rmrk.net/index.php?topic=29780.0 (http://rmrk.net/index.php?topic=29780.0)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 16, 2013, 05:09:42 PM
I'd vote for vanilla rpg maker, it will most likely be a bunch of hassle down the line with people who haven't installed or have problem with installing it etc.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 16, 2013, 05:29:06 PM
I think the patch stays within the RPGmaker folder containing the game once it's installed once, but then again, I don't really know how patches work.  It wouldn't be a problem if you just tossed the zipped game folder around to each other if the patch stays in it.  But if it would be a hassle, then no need for it.  It's just a nice thing to have.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 16, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
I think the patch stays within the RPGmaker folder containing the game once it's installed once, but then again, I don't really know how patches work.  It wouldn't be a problem if you just tossed the zipped game folder around to each other if the patch stays in it.  But if it would be a hassle, then no need for it.  It's just a nice thing to have.

I was reading about the mod, and it says it will allow you to increase the hp, exp, names, etc of characters and enemies. That will be a mod to the actual rpg maker program and not just to the specific game. I'd be down for modding the game itself, but to try to get everyone to mod their version of rm2k3 is too much work for a chain game.

Oh daoman, I put you down for chapter 7 :) it was the only one that was open besides the end chapter.

Anyone wanna sign up to make the last chapter?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 16, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
Sweet!  I think someone should be responsible for damage percentages, etc in the database.  Characters, equipment, items etc that focus on their own chapter can be created by them. 

How long do chapters need to be? 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 16, 2013, 06:50:28 PM
Sweet!  I think someone should be responsible for damage percentages, etc in the database.  Characters, equipment, items etc that focus on their own chapter can be created by them. 

How long do chapters need to be? 

That's a good idea. Last chain game I was in, we just sorta winged it, then as the game became super unbalanced, people went in and adjusted the enemies and exp.

As for chapter length, that's up to you. It's pretty much just what you can get done in a week. Anywhere from a few minutes to an hour. Though we should try to make chapters longer than a few minutes otherwise it'll be a very short game.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 16, 2013, 07:13:52 PM
Walk through 3 little maps, done!  Yay!! 

As long as the things in the database that effect ALL chapters is done and everyone agrees on it, shouldn't be too much problems regarding certain things.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 16, 2013, 09:16:46 PM
Double posting like a bad ***.

Anyway these are the two main characters I have thus far. If anyone can find or make battle chars and face sets for them, that would be awesome. For the male character, I'm using the second one from the left, but I'm defiantly okay for heavy modifications for how the character looks. For the female character, I have lots of battle poses and a sample faceset, but again, I'm okay with modifications if it makes making graphics easier.

BTW Daoman, your music is awesome, I would love to use some in the game!

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/customsaver82_zps32460acc.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/customsaver82_zps32460acc.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/yara_zps6c40a151.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/yara_zps6c40a151.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3a_zps99815cb5.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3a_zps99815cb5.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3acca_zps2ceaf629.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3acca_zps2ceaf629.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3b_zps2cb792c2.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3b_zps2cb792c2.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3accb_zps2293d3d2.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3accb_zps2293d3d2.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/SFfaces_zpsa33ec404.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/SFfaces_zpsa33ec404.png.html)

Okay I like both, nice and original, but I have to ask if it's intentional that the male character's hair is blonde while his faceset has white hair? Also I want to say I think we should use basic poses as regular battle characters, but the attack/
weapon pose should be a battle animation. There's more freedom to do what you want that way, heck I recently figured out I don't have to use whole sets of sprite sized weapons, but rather I use a few frames and I can lift them and put them
anywhere in battle sprite and even with multiple poses if I dedicate a battle animation per weapon. I planned to try this in my Dentverse games and had some sucess with Jet. I made a weapon that changed the character's battle animation to
match the weapon being used. It wasn't an FF8-like effect where you could see it in every frame, but it did allow me to do multiple frames and that lent great leisure in making a asualt riffle that fired more than three times in an animation. It can work
the same for swords, spears and more! Best part? No custom code needed. Just a little trick.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 16, 2013, 09:35:48 PM
Okay I like both, nice and original, but I have to ask if it's intentional that the male character's hair is blonde while his faceset has white hair? Also I want to say I think we should use basic poses as regular battle characters, but the attack/
weapon pose should be a battle animation. There's more freedom to do what you want that way, heck I recently figured out I don't have to use whole sets of sprite sized weapons, but rather I use a few frames and I can lift them and put them
anywhere in battle sprite and even with multiple poses if I dedicate a battle animation per weapon. I planned to try this in my Dentverse games and had some sucess with Jet. I made a weapon that changed the character's battle animation to
match the weapon being used. It wasn't an FF8-like effect where you could see it in every frame, but it did allow me to do multiple frames and that lent great leisure in making a asualt riffle that fired more than three times in an animation. It can work
the same for swords, spears and more! Best part? No custom code needed. Just a little trick.

The male character in the faceset is a different character than in the charset. I was just too lazy to edit out the other two characters of the faceset lol. And I don't think the style of the characters in the faceset is a good style to use for this game since they are very non-standard.

That's a good idea for battle poses, I'm down to try it that way.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 17, 2013, 04:11:07 AM
That's a good idea. Last chain game I was in, we just sorta winged it, then as the game became super unbalanced, people went in and adjusted the enemies and exp.

As for chapter length, that's up to you. It's pretty much just what you can get done in a week. Anywhere from a few minutes to an hour. Though we should try to make chapters longer than a few minutes otherwise it'll be a very short game.

I suggest only altering another's chapter with their consent, maybe someone wanted his chapter to be extra difficult? Would be unfair and frustrating to the creator.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 17, 2013, 05:47:44 AM
I suggest only altering another's chapter with their consent, maybe someone wanted his chapter to be extra difficult? Would be unfair and frustrating to the creator.

Well I think that sometimes you just gotta balance the exp and gold gained from enemies. And sometimes even the power of weapons and armor or skills. If it simply makes the characters too powerful and leaves little room for improvement.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 17, 2013, 08:45:57 AM
As long as you let them know, it should he fine. Im constantly adjusting stuff like that.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 17, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
So I've pretty much done the battlechar poses and everything. I just can't decide on the looks of the hero. Messed around some with the current armour idea and some quick colours with some suggestions.

In other words, I need some ideas.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/30ndel1.png)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 17, 2013, 10:01:02 AM
Well I think that sometimes you just gotta balance the exp and gold gained from enemies. And sometimes even the power of weapons and armor or skills. If it simply makes the characters too powerful and leaves little room for improvement.

Then take away the overpowered items or skills, don't change what someone has made.

Quote from: Daoman89
As long as you let them know, it should he fine. Im constantly adjusting stuff like that.
No, you ask for their consent, don't just alter something. And even if you have their consent, discuss what changes you're making.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 01:45:14 PM
So I've pretty much done the battlechar poses and everything. I just can't decide on the looks of the hero. Messed around some with the current armour idea and some quick colours with some suggestions.

In other words, I need some ideas.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/30ndel1.png)

4th row, any column. :p
In all seriousness, I really like Row 1 Col 1, Row 2 Col 2, and Row 3 Col 3. If it helps, heres a bit of his story, hopefully without spoiling anything. He is very laid back, likes to have fun, and shamelessly hits on girls and gets into trouble, but he has a good heart. The game starts off with him being a mercenary on an escort mission. Some really crazy **** happens, and he ends up, well still being a soft of mercenary, but more of a freelance defender of a giant city that is barely being held together.

For the exp, skills, and items, we should all just make sure we communicate with each other if we plan on tweaking anything. I'm pretty sure tweaks will be necessary, but lets just talk to each other so we don't change something that was intentionally hard/easy/whatever.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 17, 2013, 02:13:47 PM
I'm thinking 3.3, are there any colours I should edit? Or anything hair realted? I pretty much just copied the hair on the sprite you had earlier on my own as a placeholder of sorts. Shouldn't be too hard to change afterwards,
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
I'm thinking 3.3, are there any colours I should edit? Or anything hair realted? I pretty much just copied the hair on the sprite you had earlier on my own as a placeholder of sorts. Shouldn't be too hard to change afterwards,

I think the colors are good. Then again, I don't care much about the finer details, just as long as the character looks good. :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Meiscool on May 17, 2013, 03:08:03 PM
Is it possible to make the games item based rather than lvl based? If so, that would make it to where experience from monsters and etc really wouldn't matter, but more the available items that can be bought/found.
EDIT - Why I mention that is so that lvls between games won't be an issue and that makers wouldn't have to set experience levels in a meaningful way. Instead, just have boots for speed, armor for def, etc. and scale enemies to the items you think players should have at that point, thus allowing each maker complete control over the stats of the characters.

Great sprites prpl. I like r1c1 and r2c3 the most.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 17, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
And then make levels affect the total hp and mana I suppose?

Also, this is the current charset based on row 3, colum 3.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/v7rzq.png)

Small, I know, but you get the gist of it(or just save and open). The appearance is still up for discussion I suppose, but this is what I will base the battlechar on for now, and also to let DB have a charset.

edit. crap, made the background transparent.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 03:42:19 PM
Is it possible to make the games item based rather than lvl based? If so, that would make it to where experience from monsters and etc really wouldn't matter, but more the available items that can be bought/found.
EDIT - Why I mention that is so that lvls between games won't be an issue and that makers wouldn't have to set experience levels in a meaningful way. Instead, just have boots for speed, armor for def, etc. and scale enemies to the items you think players should have at that point, thus allowing each maker complete control over the stats of the characters.

Great sprites prpl. I like r1c1 and r2c3 the most.

The only thing I don't like about that approach is that it makes enemy fights seem much more dull. Why fight a monster for a minute if it won't make your character stronger? I guess you can get gold that way. I still like the feeling that my character is getting stronger instead instead of just richer. Though if everyone wants to go with this approach, we can try it out. We'll need to make a final decision in the next two days because I plan to be done with my chapter Sunday :)

And then make levels affect the total hp and mana I suppose?

Also, this is the current charset based on row 3, colum 3.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/v7rzq.png)

Small, I know, but you get the gist of it(or just save and open). The appearance is still up for discussion I suppose, but this is what I will base the battlechar on for now, and also to let DB have a charset.

edit. crap, made the background transparent.

Looks great! I'll try it out when I get done with work.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 17, 2013, 03:44:13 PM
I'd say, let's go with the normal approach for this one. I suppose that's the normal thing and what people are most used to. The other approach is tempting, maybe for another project?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 17, 2013, 05:13:26 PM
Well, if Chapter 1 has his ideas set in stone for the most part, he should summarize here and then Chapter 2 can start to think of how to make his/her chapter.  Of course the next chapterteer would have to keep an eye on the previous chapters work in case they change some things.  Are we having 1 hero?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 05:23:20 PM
Well, if Chapter 1 has his ideas set in stone for the most part, he should summarize here and then Chapter 2 can start to think of how to make his/her chapter.  Of course the next chapterteer would have to keep an eye on the previous chapters work in case they change some things.  Are we having 1 hero?

I do, I guess if the Momeka wants a summary of what happens, I can PM them, but in my opinion, half of the fun of making a chain game is you don't know what you're going to get until you get it :p

We're having multiple heros. I think I'm going to add 3 actually. Other people are free to add heros too if they would like to. Since somehow I made my chapter pretty long in a week, I'll probably introduce 3 just to get things started.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 17, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
I am unfamiliar with character swapping, so if someone makes that code then sweet!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 05:46:52 PM
I am unfamiliar with character swapping, so if someone makes that code then sweet!

Oh, by multiple heros I meant multiple characters in your party :p The main hero that you play with will remain the same, unless someone intentionally changes the hero to someone else.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 17, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
All right, so if we end up with more than 4, then some will have to leave or make that Teleporter thing like they have in FF
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 05:56:01 PM
All right, so if we end up with more than 4, then some will have to leave or make that Teleporter thing like they have in FF

Isn't there a party selector in rm2k3? Hmm now that I think about it, I don't think so. Well on of the characters will only be in the party for the first half of the chapter, and the other will only be in the party for the second half. We could always just swap characters or kill some off. Or I may just make a party changing system that's easy to add on to.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 17, 2013, 06:18:08 PM
A party change system isn't too hard to include, If we have 3 characters already and I'm pretty sure that other people want to add their own. It could be usefull.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 17, 2013, 06:25:28 PM
i know there's a tutorial for it somewhere.  It just seemed like too much of a hassle at the time for me to add it lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
i know there's a tutorial for it somewhere.  It just seemed like too much of a hassle at the time for me to add it lol

Haha I'll just make one, it may not be the most advance thing out there, but I'll make sure that it's easy to add characters to.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 17, 2013, 11:00:59 PM
i know there's a tutorial for it somewhere.  It just seemed like too much of a hassle at the time for me to add it lol

I can add one that is a synch to use. I used a variation of it for the Steampunk Chain Game and still use a version for my other games. It uses telaporting points to swtich between a recalled position and a map with all the characters
that have been unlocked so far. Simple code really and easy enough to modify.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 17, 2013, 11:45:34 PM
I can add one that is a synch to use. I used a variation of it for the Steampunk Chain Game and still use a version for my other games. It uses telaporting points to swtich between a recalled position and a map with all the characters
that have been unlocked so far. Simple code really and easy enough to modify.

I planned on making essentially the same thing, if you want to send me the code for that I can include it with chapter 1. Otherwise, being a professional software engineer, I'm confident that I can code one up pretty quickly, and if anyone would like to expand upon it later, they can.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 18, 2013, 12:22:44 AM
Where do you work?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 18, 2013, 12:29:52 AM
Where do you work?

I work at Intuit. My company makes TurboTax, Quick Books, Mint.com, Weave, and a lot of other small business, banking, and health care software. The product I personally design and engineer has 11+ million users. And it all started with RPG maker haha :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 18, 2013, 03:20:40 AM
I do, I guess if the Momeka wants a summary of what happens, I can PM them,

Nah, I rather work blind.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 18, 2013, 03:50:48 AM
Nah, I rather work blind.

Great, you're in for a surprise then :) Though my chapter starts off on somewhat of a serious note, I very much encourage you to take the game to a crazy new direction :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 18, 2013, 06:22:39 AM
Just found out I'll be gone half next week so my chapter might be a bit on the shorter side. But I'll try to do something interesting.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 18, 2013, 10:53:53 AM
Haven't really posted but I've been following. On the subject of systems, I feel fairly confident in my ability to "skin" custom systems as well as code menus and such in rm2k3. So if you guys are interested in having an actual menu style character selection screen, I can see what I can do.

One thing to keep in mind though is you cannot simply ask the maker what position a character is in a party, meaning party member 1-4.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 18, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
Sorry for the wait, battlechar is done. The two attacking animations should work pretty well with any weapon that follows the RTP model. Although, y'know. They will be kinda big for a charsized battle.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/9qzfba.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2wozt6c.png)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 18, 2013, 10:02:30 PM
I planned on making essentially the same thing, if you want to send me the code for that I can include it with chapter 1. Otherwise, being a professional software engineer, I'm confident that I can code one up pretty quickly, and if anyone would like to expand upon it later, they can.

Actually I think I'll let you code it, study the results and compare the two since you seem to have a great command of RPG maker code. Heck you are the one who made the system to fire multiple times in RPG maker 2003 and I had given up on that. Who knows you likely can code a
much better party swap than I can.

Sorry for the wait, battlechar is done. The two attacking animations should work pretty well with any weapon that follows the RTP model. Although, y'know. They will be kinda big for a charsized battle.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/9qzfba.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2wozt6c.png)

That is just awesome!! O.o Nice one Purple! When I get back to working on Wapred I may have to bum a few custom BCs out of you XD as for weapons fear not! My battle animation weapons will work well with this. Hmm if only I could make a
short demo and show- *Gets an idea* Uh give me a day or two and I may have a way to demonstrate how.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 19, 2013, 12:59:24 AM
That battle char is absolutely amazing!!

Actually I think I'll let you code it, study the results and compare the two since you seem to have a great command of RPG maker code. Heck you are the one who made the system to fire multiple times in RPG maker 2003 and I had given up on that. Who knows you likely can code a
much better party swap than I can.

Which system was that??
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 19, 2013, 01:13:40 AM
Glad you guys liked it, jut let me know if there is anything else you need.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 19, 2013, 11:39:14 AM
sick battle sprite! Well, now Im getting excited about this.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on May 19, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
Also, on the topic of patches and hacks. If we use any of cherrys there would be no worry of weird installation unless we use dynrpg patches. Otherwise, if someone wants to use a patch we should maybe consider it. I dont think I will meed any just saying.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 19, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
If we patch it within the game file/folder itself, will it not still be there when you pass around the zipped folder to each other regardless of the different computers?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2013, 01:28:26 AM
If we patch it within the game file/folder itself, will it not still be there when you pass around the zipped folder to each other regardless of the different computers?

Patching the game exe file will mean that the patch will be passed between us. If a patch requires us to patch rm2k3 itself, then each of us will have to patch our rm2k3 program for it to work, and that would be pretty bad. There are a lot of patches that only patch the game exe and don't matter if the rm2k3 program is patched. One good example is customized splash screens, you can replace the default ones with custom ones by a patch. I'd be down for applying a patch like this, but I don't think applying a patch for rm2k3 itself will be a good idea.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 20, 2013, 03:37:11 AM
How's the chapter coming along?

- sprites -

Looks sweet, purp.

Also, on the topic of patches and hacks. If we use any of cherrys there would be no worry of weird installation unless we use dynrpg patches. Otherwise, if someone wants to use a patch we should maybe consider it. I dont think I will meed any just saying.

I still think patches seems unnecessary advanced for a chain game. I'm sure we can do something cool with the standard maker. But if everyone else wants to do it so sure.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 20, 2013, 09:56:07 AM
Gotchya. I only patched my games .exe im sure, but ill open up an old project if i havent deleted it to see if it was effected and a new game.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2013, 12:14:17 PM
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How's the chapter coming along?

Eh mostly done. I know I said I'd have it done yesterday. I lied. About a million and a half issues came up with work at the end of the week and over the weekend that had to be fixed asap. I'll try to finish up tonight.

I have all the maps done, most of the events done, so I just need to add some battles, and finish up the events that are needed for the chapter. Otherwise half way through my chapter you'll appear in a giant city with no idea of where to go or what to do...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 20, 2013, 12:40:04 PM
Did you set a universal damage and magic percentages in the attributes?

also please describe the hero's personality. that way hes not extremely bipolar lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 20, 2013, 12:54:08 PM
Eh mostly done. I know I said I'd have it done yesterday. I lied. About a million and a half issues came up with work at the end of the week and over the weekend that had to be fixed asap. I'll try to finish up tonight.

I have all the maps done, most of the events done, so I just need to add some battles, and finish up the events that are needed for the chapter. Otherwise half way through my chapter you'll appear in a giant city with no idea of where to go or what to do...

Thats fine with me, as long as I got a week to work on it I should be good.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Quote
Thats fine with me, as long as I got a week to work on it I should be good.

No worries, it'll be a week from when you get it :) Did you say you were going to be gone for a few days? We could probably give you an extension if you need it so you can actually work on it for a week.

Did you set a universal damage and magic percentages in the attributes?

also please describe the hero's personality. that way hes not extremely bipolar lol

Nope didn't set any of that yet. I haven't touched the database yet, just maps and events.. Speaking of which, I give permission to anyone to change the stats for the heros, items, monsters, etc to balance things out more. I'll do my best, but due to time contraints, I won't be able to fine tune the stats.

I'll post the personality of the hero, but the hero's personality is party shaped by the events from the first half of my chapter, so it will most definitely contain spoilers. I recommend that no one reads on past this point (until you play through my chapter), but here it is anyway:

[spoiler]
The main character, Jack, is light hearted, and likes to joke around and have fun. He starts off as a freelance mercenary because he does not like to be a schedule or place. In short, he likes to do his own thing. On one of his missions (the one the game starts off on), Jack is escorting a group of mages through the forest to look for the mysterious entity "Aura", thought to be a fragment of the planet's spirit. Jack doesn't believe in the notion of Aura, and figures he'll kill a few monsters and get paid well for it, he was wrong. The mages' intention was good, but Jack knew what they were attempting to do was not right, but instead of stopping them, he let it go on and even defended them from monsters. That was the day the world broke and turned on humanity. Natural disasters are common, new and fierce monsters have started appearing, and in certain places reality and the laws of physics are completely messed up. There are only a few cities left in the world that can defend themselves from the outside world. Jack spends three years sulking and blaming himself for the condition of the world and turns to drinking to comfort himself, while he is still light hearted and easy going, his terrible secret eats away at him every day. He took up an occupation as a hunter. Hunters hunt dangerous monsters around the city, the more they hunt, the more they get paid. Then one day at the bar, he overhears a rumor that there may be a way to restore the world to the way it was. He sets out to find answers outside of the city walls, right after watching an old man sing "big booty bitches" on the karaoke stage, shamelessly hitting on a girl, and then getting chased out of town by her husband.
[spoiler]
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 20, 2013, 03:13:41 PM
All right, I won't read it :).  It just wouldn't be good if the hero's personality suddenly changed cause others would be like wait, wasn't he against these views?  We want players to be like "what" on what's happening, not the "what" from confusion of the hero's personality etc lol.

And I forgot to compliment Purps sprite, it's sick!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2013, 03:24:29 PM
All right, I won't read it :).  It just wouldn't be good if the hero's personality suddenly changed cause others would be like wait, wasn't he against these views?  We want players to be like "what" on what's happening, not the "what" from confusion of the hero's personality etc lol.

And I forgot to compliment Purps sprite, it's sick!

Eh good point, but due to the nature of chain games, it's probably going to be disjointed anyway. Our maps will look different, the dialogue will be slightly different, different styles, etc. I think I change the hero's personality half way through my chapter on purpose lol.  I guess a really brief hero personality description is "care free, likes to have fun, gets into a lot of trouble (but doesn't) care, has a good heart, and has a dark secret that tears away at him".
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 20, 2013, 03:35:34 PM
As long as the player knows hes changing its fine, but if it happens without warning then its like wha?  I think I know how I'm gonna design my maps for the most part though!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
As long as the player knows hes changing its fine, but if it happens without warning then its like wha?  I think I know how I'm gonna design my maps for the most part though!

Haha, well maybe the hero IS bipolar :p Also in the past, we've split up the chapters by having a chapter 'title screen' in between each chapter. For example, I start off my chapter with an image that says:

Chapter 1 - The Hungry Earth
By Zesher (The name I go by everywhere else besides charas)

So the player has somewhat of a cue that things are going to change up a bit.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 20, 2013, 04:05:36 PM
No worries, it'll be a week from when you get it :) Did you say you were going to be gone for a few days? We could probably give you an extension if you need it so you can actually work on it for a week.

I'll most likely be gone Thursday to Monday (will know for sure tomorrow). If no one minds I might take a bit of an extension if not I can probably whip together something short with the time I have.

As long as the player knows hes changing its fine, but if it happens without warning then its like wha?  I think I know how I'm gonna design my maps for the most part though!

You could play a bit of the old one to get a bit of a feel how it will probably play.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
I'll most likely be gone Thursday to Monday (will know for sure tomorrow). If no one minds I might take a bit of an extension if not I can probably whip together something short with the time I have.

Yeah you should take an extension then. Otherwise you may be able to switch chapters with someone if you want to wait till your less busy.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 20, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
A bipolar character would be interesting lol.  I always thought it would be a good idea if the player played as the antagonist but didn't know it.  Like the game made you feel like what you were doing was the right thing, but turned out that you were the bad guy the entire time. 

I really look forward to what people bring to the table though. 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 20, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
Well I read it and I certainly think the main hero seems sound. The story looks adaptable from what I've seen in this. Yes yes. Very nice. Well I managed to get a battle animation done using a custom made gunblade, spur of the moment thing no permanent  and I just need to make a clean
template using the "three" stage swing that Purps did for the main character. After I do that I'll upload a mini demo-like file that'll show you how it works. Easier than me explaining and I can SHOW it to you. It's pretty basic and at my current count if you have two frame weapons, one with it unswung and another with it swung, then
we can have up to 22 weapons in a single battle animation. Oh and if you use the system's tint you can have more than double that in recolors <.<

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Chapter 1 - The Hungry Earth

 *Thinks of Doctor Who and Silurians*

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Eh good point, but due to the nature of chain games, it's probably going to be disjointed anyway. Our maps will look different, the dialogue will be slightly different, different styles, etc.

Yep. I noticed that in the first chain game and it is one thing that actually makes it fun. It's also why the more loosely the characters are described the better. Less character contradictions. Le'Carvat was mostly personalityless and is still one of my favorite characters from the plot to this day. Just don't try to be too blank. I think the way DB wrote Jack will work well as it gives us plenty to play with.

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A bipolar character would be interesting lol.  I always thought it would be a good idea if the player played as the antagonist but didn't know it.

Like Revan in Knights of the Old Republic. How you main character turns out to be a brain washed and slightly brain damaged version of him. I always liked that little twist. Especially if you didn't know, played a Light Sider straight through till the truth was revealed XD


Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 20, 2013, 04:48:30 PM
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Like Revan in Knights of the Old Republic. How you main character turns out to be a brain washed and slightly brain damaged version of him. I always liked that little twist. Especially if you didn't know, played a Light Sider straight through till the truth was revealed XD

I've played none of those so I apologize for my ignorance regarding those game's stories :P

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2013, 05:22:07 PM
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*Thinks of Doctor Who and Silurians*

Haha I admit it, that's where the name for the chapter came from.. But ONLY the name, the base idea for my chapter started off drinking and other things with some buddies. We got into talking about evolution and darwinism, and then someone brought up how mother nature is a bitch and survival of the fittest only happens because the planet needs to consume blood... The conversation went progressively weird from there.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 20, 2013, 05:52:34 PM
I keep checking this thread because I'm terrified my turn will sneak up on me suddenly.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 20, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
Haha I admit it, that's where the name for the chapter came from.. But ONLY the name, the base idea for my chapter started off drinking and other things with some buddies. We got into talking about evolution and darwinism, and then someone brought up how mother nature is a bitch and survival of the fittest only happens because the planet needs to consume blood... The conversation went progressively weird from there.

Well sounds like it'll at least be interesting! o.O Through I will admit I wanted to see Lizard Babes XD!!!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 21, 2013, 02:22:26 AM
Well sounds like it'll at least be interesting! o.O Through I will admit I wanted to see Lizard Babes XD!!!

Haha I always sneak a few lizard people into my games. I won't judge you if you consider them babes.

My chapter will be done tomorrow. I pretty much just need to make battles and items. Since i don't have battle chars for two of the party members, they'll have some random graphic, so someone else will have to go in and switch them over to use the correct graphics once we make them.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 21, 2013, 04:34:38 AM
Since i don't have battle chars for two of the party members, they'll have some random graphic, so someone else will have to go in and switch them over to use the correct graphics once we make them.

Was that an indirect request aimed at me perhaps?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 21, 2013, 06:10:10 AM
My chapter will be done tomorrow. I pretty much just need to make battles and items. Since i don't have battle chars for two of the party members, they'll have some random graphic, so someone else will have to go in and switch them over to use the correct graphics once we make them.

All right, I'm pretty confident I can finish something with the time I have so I'll do the next chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 21, 2013, 02:13:20 PM
All right, I'm pretty confident I can finish something with the time I have so I'll do the next chapter.

Alright sounds good :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 22, 2013, 06:16:27 AM
The trip was postponed so I will have more time for the chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 22, 2013, 08:01:45 AM
I'm confused now! There's a lot of pages and I can't be bothered to scan each one. Does this game continually move with the same
characters or does each chapter introduce a brand new story?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 22, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
You create your chapter but it should be connected to the rest of the game somehow. You can add some characters of your own to the party if we get a party swap system or just, make one of them have the pox so s/he stays at the inn for the entire chapter.
How you want to do your chapter is up to you. Just don't, y'know, give the main character 2x Megaulti SwordZ that strikes 3x2 times each on all targets.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 22, 2013, 10:47:25 AM
How you want to do your chapter is up to you. Just don't, y'know, give the main character 2x Megaulti SwordZ that strikes 3x2 times each on all targets.

NOOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 22, 2013, 10:58:31 AM
Haha I always sneak a few lizard people into my games. I won't judge you if you consider them babes.

My chapter will be done tomorrow. I pretty much just need to make battles and items. Since i don't have battle chars for two of the party members, they'll have some random graphic, so someone else will have to go in and switch them over to use the correct graphics once we make them.

Heh heh. Hey there are some lovely unsused dragon galls in the resources I'm just saying. <.<

Eh that was the way the one of the chain games started out. Random place holder battlers that could be swapped out once we had a the finished product.

The trip was postponed so I will have more time for the chapter.

Awesome! Looks like fate may be on ou- *Stops in case he brings bad luck on the game by tempting fate*

I'm confused now! There's a lot of pages and I can't be bothered to scan each one. Does this game continually move with the same
characters or does each chapter introduce a brand new story?

Well depending on the chapter you can introduce new characters, but I think you should keep the the "Rule of Tidus" in play. IE: How FF's main protagonist didn't often get removed from the party much except during special events and so forth. The other characters that join should be able to be removed at least every now and then. I mean what's the
point of having a large party if you can't pick and choose which characters to use in your party? It's one thing I love about KOTOR is that i have like 9 different characters to choose from. All with valuable skills and awesome tales to tell as the story moves on. I rather think that's the way to go.

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How you want to do your chapter is up to you. Just don't, y'know, give the main character 2x Megaulti SwordZ that strikes 3x2 times each on all targets.

XD Most defiantly NOT. In fact other than a few silly weapons, let's not do too many over powered weapons and focus more on stat building and the use of skill sets to beat bosses and over come challenges.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 22, 2013, 01:13:13 PM
You can do 5x attack with a weak weapon and low accuracy.  Kinda like a gamble weapon in a sense.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 22, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
You can do 5x attack with a weak weapon and low accuracy.  Kinda like a gamble weapon in a sense.

Well a weapon like that is still balanced. We just mean that we don't want any 'god' items that will make the game unbalanced.

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XD Most defiantly NOT. In fact other than a few silly weapons, let's not do too many over powered weapons and focus more on stat building and the use of skill sets to beat bosses and over come challenges.

I like stat building, lets combine that with getting better (balanced) equipment so that you don't only need to level up, but you also need to find better equipment. Your tin armor won't defend you nearly as well as that titanium armor that you stole off some guy.

I'm trying to balance the gameplay in my chapter, but after not using rm2k3 in 5ish years, and not using the default battle system in even longer, I'm failing at this. So I give anyone permission to modify all the battles, items, stats, etc in my chapter to make it feel more balanced.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 22, 2013, 02:56:40 PM
Well a weapon like that is still balanced. We just mean that we don't want any 'god' items that will make the game unbalanced.

I know i was just stating a good example for a 5x weapon.  It could either do bad (1-2 hits), ok (3), or good/great (4-5).  But it won't be uber powerful, just a slight damage boost.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 23, 2013, 09:48:36 AM
Well a weapon like that is still balanced. We just mean that we don't want any 'god' items that will make the game unbalanced.

I like stat building, lets combine that with getting better (balanced) equipment so that you don't only need to level up, but you also need to find better equipment. Your tin armor won't defend you nearly as well as that titanium armor that you stole off some guy.

I'm trying to balance the gameplay in my chapter, but after not using rm2k3 in 5ish years, and not using the default battle system in even longer, I'm failing at this. So I give anyone permission to modify all the battles, items, stats, etc in my chapter to make it feel more balanced.

Well yeah we need armor and weapon classes too. I made the mistake of just making a new random upgrade weapon as I went along and I'm so having a headache over it while working on my current game. It's really anoying when you go to place it in a shop and find out the item is costly but not as high of DEF as you though or that some are ones I "copy pasted" then forgot to change the stat modifiers.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 24, 2013, 02:31:35 AM
So you know how I said I'd get my chapter done Monday or Tuesday? Well I just finished it :p I started off by making a lot of maps, and I severely underestimated the amount of time to add events, items, animations, and monsters to those maps. A few quick notes on my chapter:

1. Momeka: I sent you a download link for the chain game. If you didn't get my PM or if there are any problems with the link/game, let me know asap.
2. I started my chapter off on a serious note because I'm not a comedian and if I tried to make it funny, it would be bad :( but please feel free to take future chapters ANYWHERE your heart desires.
3. I wasn't able to add a party change system due to time constraints, if someone would like a party change script, I can create and send it separately.
4. We are very lacking in battle graphics, all the characters have the same battle char animation and weapon graphics are not there. We should adjust this along the way.
5. I added items, spells, and monsters at the last second. The game is most likely not balanced, so feel free to adjust any of the stats to balance out the game play and make it better.
6. I created a giant city, but sadly I didn't have much time to populate it, so it's kind of bare. If anyone would like to add characters or anything to the city, please feel free to do so.
7. If anyone needs a place to upload the game after they finish their chapter, let me know, I can put it on my server.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 24, 2013, 03:10:10 AM
Sounds awesome. I'll download it as soon as I'm home from work.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 24, 2013, 12:05:48 PM
I suggest that we all add our own bits to the giant city when it comes round to our turn! So it's a little bit of everyone in one place.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 24, 2013, 12:16:43 PM
I suggest that we all add our own bits to the giant city when it comes round to our turn! So it's a little bit of everyone in one place.

Sounds good to me. If you look through the map structure, there are actually several unused maps and some more unfinished maps. The entrance to these areas were just removed. So if anyone would like to expand and create and do something with one of these 'hidden' areas, that's an option too.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Iwasthegrandmaallalong on May 24, 2013, 12:44:55 PM
I'd be up for a chain game...as long as I get to make the final boss. ^_^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 24, 2013, 02:38:27 PM
I'd be up for a chain game...as long as I get to make the final boss. ^_^

I'm thinking no... This is a charas chain game, and this is your only post thus far on charas. I mean, what if you're a spy? We can't take that risk.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 24, 2013, 02:58:44 PM
We'd need to see something you've worked on as well granda juggles.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 24, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
I suggest that we all add our own bits to the giant city when it comes round to our turn! So it's a little bit of everyone in one place.

=D I looooooove that idea! Oh do we still have the meeting room hidden in the game's maps with little notes like we did in CCG1 and CCG2.1?

I'm thinking no... This is a charas chain game, and this is your only post thus far on charas. I mean, what if you're a spy? We can't take that risk.

Seriously he could be! o.O We should lighsaber slice first and ask questions later. After all we have plenty of Phoenix Down. Also should't you, DB, make the final boss? Isn't that tradition?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 24, 2013, 06:41:44 PM
Seriously he could be! o.O We should lighsaber slice first and ask questions later. After all we have plenty of Phoenix Down. Also should't you, DB, make the final boss? Isn't that tradition?

Yeah, you're the one that gathered us all here today in honor of a chain game. 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 25, 2013, 09:58:44 AM
=D I looooooove that idea! Oh do we still have the meeting room hidden in the game's maps with little notes like we did in CCG1 and CCG2.1?

We do! Except it's not really a room, it's more of an empty grass field at the moment.. I ran out of time to make it extravagant, so someone else should take the time to make it into a real room haha.

Yeah, you're the one that gathered us all here today in honor of a chain game. 

I don't know if it's tradition or not, but I think we've done that in the past. I'll leave the final chapter/boss open in case someone else wants to sign up for a chapter, but if no one does, I can finish off the game.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 25, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
I don't know if it's tradition or not, but I think we've done that in the past. I'll leave the final chapter/boss open in case someone else wants to sign up for a chapter, but if no one does, I can finish off the game.

The only reason I did the final chapter on the first chain game was cause a bunch of people dropped out and I couldn't find anyone willing to do it.

Also Blaze, I loved the first chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 26, 2013, 07:27:50 AM
Also Blaze, I loved the first chapter.

Sounds promising.

Still some time 'till I get my chance at working with the game.

Let me know if there is anything resource or code-related that you need for the game and I'll whip something up.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 26, 2013, 09:06:18 AM
Fredrik whipped me hard but I finished the music he wanted for the chain game.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 26, 2013, 12:57:32 PM
Also Blaze, I loved the first chapter.

That's good to hear :) Haven't touched rpg maker in around 5 years, so it's good to know that I'm not TOO rusty.

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Sounds promising.

Still some time 'till I get my chance at working with the game.

Let me know if there is anything resource or code-related that you need for the game and I'll whip something up.

We still need battle chars for the other characters. I have a a bunch of battle poses in charset form, but I doubt they'll be comparable with normal battle weapons. I may be able to try to convert them to battle chars myself next week. I also wasn't able to add a party change script, and unless we only want to add one more character, or kill off some of our current characters, we'll need one.

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Fredrik whipped me hard but I finished the music he wanted for the chain game.

O.o
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 26, 2013, 02:07:25 PM
O.o

I'm his music slave for most of his side-projects.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 26, 2013, 02:44:27 PM
O.o

Momeka is Fredrik for those of you who don't follow btw.

We still need battle chars for the other characters. I have a a bunch of battle poses in charset form, but I doubt they'll be comparable with normal battle weapons. I may be able to try to convert them to battle chars myself next week. I also wasn't able to add a party change script, and unless we only want to add one more character, or kill off some of our current characters, we'll need one.

We could just do a battlechar without additional weapon graphics if we want to.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 26, 2013, 03:24:39 PM
Momeka is Fredrik for those of you who don't follow btw.

We could just do a battlechar without additional weapon graphics if we want to.

Ah, yes, that mightn't've been clear. I've known him for so long I barely call him anything than Fredrik.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 27, 2013, 03:02:13 AM
Hey, peeps.

I'll try to have my chapter finished tonight. Should I send it to you when it's done, Blaze?

Fredrik whipped me hard but I finished the music he wanted for the chain game.

I'll whip you some more, cause one of the songs don't loop.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 27, 2013, 03:28:20 AM
Hey, peeps.

I'll try to have my chapter finished tonight. Should I send it to you when it's done, Blaze?

I'll whip you some more, cause one of the songs don't loop.

Done and done.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 27, 2013, 08:20:04 AM
Have there been any further developments that you could put on the original post? I'm finding it hard to keep up with all these posts :p
How do we transition from one game to another? I think we should make little transition maps where you end up, then the next person adds to
that and carries on, unless there's an easier way!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 27, 2013, 12:26:46 PM
Are we all dudes working on this chain game? jw
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 27, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
I've finished my chapter and sent it over to Blaze.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 27, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
We could just do a battlechar without additional weapon graphics if we want to.

Yeah that works, right now ALL of the battle chars are the hero's battle char, and none of them really have real weapon graphics, so anything will be better than that lol.

Have there been any further developments that you could put on the original post? I'm finding it hard to keep up with all these posts :p
How do we transition from one game to another? I think we should make little transition maps where you end up, then the next person adds to
that and carries on, unless there's an easier way!

Well it looks like Bluhman modified the first post to include statuses on who is currently working on the game. I'll continue doing that so we can see who has the game. I don't know if it's really worth putting anything else there unless something really big happens.
In the past we handled transitions by making 'Chapter' screens. For example I started off with 'Chapter 1 - Title, By DragonBlaze' (I actually used my alias Zesher instead of DragonBlaze). Then when the next person starts their chapter, they would include there own chapter screen that says 'Chapter X, Title. By SomeName'.

Are we all dudes working on this chain game? jw

I think so, then again, this site is like 99% dudes lol

I've finished my chapter and sent it over to Blaze.

Awesome, I passed it along to Moose.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Meiscool on May 27, 2013, 06:20:55 PM
Have there been any further developments that you could put on the original post? I'm finding it hard to keep up with all these posts :p

This.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 27, 2013, 10:13:29 PM
Yay for sausage fest??
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 28, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
We do have some girls around but they are so artistically and aesthetic (just look at all the singing Zerl is doing) that they have a celebrities life to take care of or something.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 28, 2013, 06:10:07 AM
Guise? What are your thoughts on us making our own resources for this game from scratch? We could make a 100% original content
game which could potentially be insane! I can also sprite / make music / program now, which could ease the process.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 28, 2013, 06:15:26 AM
Guise? What are your thoughts on us making our own resources for this game from scratch? We could make a 100% original content
game which could potentially be insane! I can also sprite / make music / program now, which could ease the process.

Except two maps and sound effect everything is custom on my chapter. But a bit late to impose this now that two chapters are already finished.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 28, 2013, 06:20:02 AM
But a bit late to impose this now that two chapters are already finished.

My thoughts exactly.


But feel free to do as much from scratch as you can. As long as it doesn't stop you from finishing.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 28, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
I'm adding my additions to RTP maps on my chapter and probably a song or two.  Try and stop me! :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on May 28, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
Well in that case, we could just try what we could in a given time. If the game is "off da hook", then we could always look into
something like that later, which could potentially bring in lots of activity to these forums.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 28, 2013, 11:43:52 AM
Guise? What are your thoughts on us making our own resources for this game from scratch? We could make a 100% original content
game which could potentially be insane! I can also sprite / make music / program now, which could ease the process.

Except two maps and sound effect everything is custom on my chapter. But a bit late to impose this now that two chapters are already finished.

But feel free to do as much from scratch as you can. As long as it doesn't stop you from finishing.

Well I have some hand made graphics. One of the monsters, a bunch of the NPCs, and some of the tiles were custom made by me :p The only problem with trying to make ALL custom resources is that it takes a long time and a lot of effort. Considering we each only have this game for a week (or supposed to anyway), 100% custom resources is probably impossible.

I'm adding my additions to RTP maps on my chapter and probably a song or two.  Try and stop me! :P

You bastard! :p

Well in that case, we could just try what we could in a given time. If the game is "off da hook", then we could always look into
something like that later, which could potentially bring in lots of activity to these forums.

That's a good idea. And the game WILL be "off da hook", not IF.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 28, 2013, 11:49:54 AM
This song will be playing

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/92409103/DO%20NOT%20DELETE%20ME/Diving%20Into%20Mysterious%20Places.mp3

I have an idea of what I'm gonna do, but not for the story because.... It's impossible to know what the story is at this moment in time! :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 29, 2013, 12:13:26 AM
We do have some girls around but they are so artistically and aesthetic (just look at all the singing Zerl is doing) that they have a celebrities life to take care of or something.

Eh. I miss Valiere. T_T She was fun and a talented spriter.

Well I have some hand made graphics. One of the monsters, a bunch of the NPCs, and some of the tiles were custom made by me :p The only problem with trying to make ALL custom resources is that it takes a long time and a lot of effort. Considering we each only have this game for a week (or supposed to anyway), 100% custom resources is probably impossible.

You bastard! :p

That's a good idea. And the game WILL be "off da hook", not IF.

Listen to this man. I would have at least been more than half done with some of my projects if I only had all the custom resources I needed. Having a 100% custom game is awesome, but under the time limit we have it's pipe dream. Better to have a 90% custom game.
Since I spend most of my free time makign custom sprites or editing others till their nearly unreconizable I'll have plenty of custom graphics. What I'm worried about are the battlers. Ah reminds me. I can still do the battle animation battlers, but if everyone wields two weapons I will
have to make two animations per weapon. ^_^; This could over work even me. So maybe I should only make special weapons battle animation based? Unless you guys want to me work on a bunch in separate file then transfer them to the completed game?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Archem on May 29, 2013, 01:47:35 AM
Yeah, Val was great.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Meiscool on May 29, 2013, 04:30:51 AM
That one girl who used to talk about her kid all the time was a good spriter too. I don't remember her name but she had a game called Legend of Lunaira or something like that.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 29, 2013, 11:41:51 AM
Listen to this man. I would have at least been more than half done with some of my projects if I only had all the custom resources I needed. Having a 100% custom game is awesome, but under the time limit we have it's pipe dream. Better to have a 90% custom game.
Since I spend most of my free time makign custom sprites or editing others till their nearly unreconizable I'll have plenty of custom graphics. What I'm worried about are the battlers. Ah reminds me. I can still do the battle animation battlers, but if everyone wields two weapons I will
have to make two animations per weapon. ^_^; This could over work even me. So maybe I should only make special weapons battle animation based? Unless you guys want to me work on a bunch in separate file then transfer them to the completed game?

Whatever you'd want to do. Do we need separate animations for different weapons?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 29, 2013, 02:25:10 PM
Whatever you'd want to do. Do we need separate animations for different weapons?

Not if we do it by classes. Liek I said originaly you could fit 20 something weapons in each battle animation file and all it'd take is some swapping out of frames to make a new one. For example I can use a regular old Bent Sword in one animation then go back and replace those cells where the character is swinging the Bent Sword and
swap them with a Steel Sword of Creature Felling. In fact if each character uses only one group of weapons or a weapon and sub weapon combo I can fill out all the character's weapons pretty easily. It's when you get into "Anybody can equip anything" that it get impossibly hard to fill all those potential sheets. @_@
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 29, 2013, 02:51:49 PM
Not if we do it by classes. Liek I said originaly you could fit 20 something weapons in each battle animation file and all it'd take is some swapping out of frames to make a new one. For example I can use a regular old Bent Sword in one animation then go back and replace those cells where the character is swinging the Bent Sword and
swap them with a Steel Sword of Creature Felling. In fact if each character uses only one group of weapons or a weapon and sub weapon combo I can fill out all the character's weapons pretty easily. It's when you get into "Anybody can equip anything" that it get impossibly hard to fill all those potential sheets. @_@

I see, well the three characters thus far in chapters 1 and 2 use only one weapon type each. One uses a sword, one is a mage and uses a staff, and one uses a spear.

Btw, I cheated and played through Momeka's chapter, it was f*cking awesome.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 30, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
I see, well the three characters thus far in chapters 1 and 2 use only one weapon type each. One uses a sword, one is a mage and uses a staff, and one uses a spear.

Btw, I cheated and played through Momeka's chapter, it was f*cking awesome.

Kay now that more or less helps out. If somebody can send me their attack animation. I already have the main hero, whom I assume is the sword user, but I need attack poses on the other two characters so I can have their weapons made by the time my chapter comes up.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 30, 2013, 06:13:04 PM
Man, by the time it's my chapter y'all gonna have high expectations or something for it lol. 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 30, 2013, 09:05:53 PM
Man, by the time it's my chapter y'all gonna have high expectations or something for it lol. 

Haha no worries man, we're doing this for fun. We're not trying to make a professional grade game or anything.

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Kay now that more or less helps out. If somebody can send me their attack animation. I already have the main hero, whom I assume is the sword user, but I need attack poses on the other two characters so I can have their weapons made by the time my chapter comes up.

Will charset attack animations with weapons attached be good enough?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on May 31, 2013, 02:16:05 AM
Man, by the time it's my chapter y'all gonna have high expectations or something for it lol.

Would you feel better if I we promise you we won't?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 31, 2013, 06:26:08 PM
Would you feel better if I we promise you we won't?


Im not worried about it, hence me saying 'lol'. I think i know what im gonna do for the most part, bad or good idc. Plus this is a good opportunity to learn about everyone's tastes.

I'd rather see everyone elses ideas and what their strengths are and learn from them. This is all for fun and nobody should feel pressured. Besides, i know what im better at than most of the ppl on here anyways lol :P (nothing to do with coding etc)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 31, 2013, 06:31:35 PM
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Besides, i know what im better at than most of the ppl on here anyways lol

You can't say THAT and then not tell us what the thing is! :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Meiscool on May 31, 2013, 07:30:10 PM
Besides, i know what im better at than most of the ppl on here anyways

DEFINITELY NOT MUSIC LOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: fruckert on May 31, 2013, 07:31:44 PM
I think it's muscles.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on May 31, 2013, 08:03:31 PM
ouch Meiscool lol. Fruckert is correct! :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 01, 2013, 07:23:29 AM
I've played through the bits so far. DB, you start the game perfectly and really set up the world etc, and Red Fox and Drace... Good god! So awesome.

One question without trawling the thread... The battlechars aren't supposed to be finished yet, right? Because there's only one class and it looks like the main character. Certainly makes battles a drag.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 01, 2013, 07:25:59 AM
I've played through the bits so far. DB, you start the game perfectly and really set up the world etc, and Red Fox and Drace... Good god! So awesome.

Don't give me too much credit, I only did the music and a little bit text editing.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 01, 2013, 07:33:22 AM
I give RF most of the credit but I didn't want to leave you out : p The music was awesome.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 01, 2013, 01:29:19 PM
One question without trawling the thread... The battlechars aren't supposed to be finished yet, right? Because there's only one class and it looks like the main character. Certainly makes battles a drag.

I did one (which I suppose is the one you are seeing) If you want any others just let me know and I'll get to work.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 01, 2013, 03:21:42 PM
Will charset attack animations with weapons attached be good enough?

Yep that'll do. In fact it'll be more than helpful. ^_^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 01, 2013, 04:52:53 PM
I've played through the bits so far. DB, you start the game perfectly and really set up the world etc, and Red Fox and Drace... Good god! So awesome.

One question without trawling the thread... The battlechars aren't supposed to be finished yet, right? Because there's only one class and it looks like the main character. Certainly makes battles a drag.

Thanks :) Yeah the battle characters are definitely unfinished, it was either reuse the same custom one for the other characters or use RTP battlers for the other characters (temporally), but then the other characters would seem to be giants compared to Jack. The battles themselves were made very quickly (about 20 mins for all the spells and monsters) because I ran out of time. I highly suggest if someone has the time to make the battles a bit more interesting and balanced, go ahead and do it. Even for my 'boss' creatures I tried to add variability to their actions, but it seems that I'm so unused to the default battle system that I can't make the battles go how I planned them to :(

Yep that'll do. In fact it'll be more than helpful. ^_^

Alright sounds good. A lot of the poses go over the size of a normal sprite, so they span several charsets. If there is an overflow, they'll be in the same row/column on the next charset. Some assembly required :p

Kyruto:
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero2a-1_zpsc10207a5.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero2a-1_zpsc10207a5.png.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero2acca_zpsc212870d.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero2acca_zpsc212870d.png.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero2b_zps61a0e999.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero2b_zps61a0e999.png.html)

Yara:
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3a_zps99815cb5.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3a_zps99815cb5.png.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3acca_zps2ceaf629.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3acca_zps2ceaf629.png.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3b_zps2cb792c2.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3b_zps2cb792c2.png.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/hero3accb_zps2293d3d2.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/hero3accb_zps2293d3d2.png.html)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 02, 2013, 04:19:48 AM
Hey DB, gonna make those two into battlechars me think. Anything to add about them regarding how their movements should be?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on June 02, 2013, 11:24:13 AM
I'm glad to hear you guys liked the chapter. I was a bit worried it would be too short and easy.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 02, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
Hey DB, gonna make those two into battlechars me think. Anything to add about them regarding how their movements should be?

No not really, I'm not much of an artist so the movements I designed probably aren't that natural anyway.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 02, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
Thanks :) Yeah the battle characters are definitely unfinished, it was either reuse the same custom one for the other characters or use RTP battlers for the other characters (temporally), but then the other characters would seem to be giants compared to Jack. The battles themselves were made very quickly (about 20 mins for all the spells and monsters) because I ran out of time. I highly suggest if someone has the time to make the battles a bit more interesting and balanced, go ahead and do it. Even for my 'boss' creatures I tried to add variability to their actions, but it seems that I'm so unused to the default battle system that I can't make the battles go how I planned them to :(

Alright sounds good. A lot of the poses go over the size of a normal sprite, so they span several charsets. If there is an overflow, they'll be in the same row/column on the next charset. Some assembly required :p

Kyruto:

Yara:

Oho awesome! Thanks DB. X3 Should be able to make lovely battle animation weapons for these guys! As for the RT replacements why not use Insane JP's or XJerico's as stand ins? In fact recently I've been wondering why nobody realizes we have sprite size battlers in variety of flavors in the resources. I suppose it's the fact I only remember them because he was my sensei for a bit and they're my favorite sprite sized battler.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 02, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
Oho awesome! Thanks DB. X3 Should be able to make lovely battle animation weapons for these guys! As for the RT replacements why not use Insane JP's or XJerico's as stand ins? In fact recently I've been wondering why nobody realizes we have sprite size battlers in variety of flavors in the resources. I suppose it's the fact I only remember them because he was my sensei for a bit and they're my favorite sprite sized battler.

I decided to reuse the same battle chars instead of battle chars that were sorta similar to encourage the creation of custom battlers instead of using 'good enough' battlers :p

If it helps, I have a few more poses for Yara, mainly just her spear at different angles.

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/yara_zpsc4e1daed.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/yara_zpsc4e1daed.png.html)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 02, 2013, 07:43:26 PM
I envy all of your artistic and sprite making skills lol

Edit:

I wanna hear some of the music Dr. Ace created.  Are they midis or mp3s?  I like hearing new game tunes.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 03, 2013, 10:29:08 PM
I decided to reuse the same battle chars instead of battle chars that were sorta similar to encourage the creation of custom battlers instead of using 'good enough' battlers :p

If it helps, I have a few more poses for Yara, mainly just her spear at different angles.

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/yara_zpsc4e1daed.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/yara_zpsc4e1daed.png.html)

XD I hadn't thought of it it that way, but I suppose it is possible people would become complacent. No need to worry about that from me. Working a little sprite here and there. even sketched some mini drawings in my notebook.
Though I'll likely have to adapt anything I make so I have a few varried models. I defiantly know I want to do the non-human character of the cast if somebody hasn't done that already.

Oh and I'll compare those to the ones I have on file, though with the spears I'll likely have to remake them from scratch. ^^; Hate to with that awesome Final Fantasy-esque weapon she's got though o.O I'm sure mine will only look bad by comparison.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 03, 2013, 11:48:07 PM
XD I hadn't thought of it it that way, but I suppose it is possible people would become complacent. No need to worry about that from me. Working a little sprite here and there. even sketched some mini drawings in my notebook.
Though I'll likely have to adapt anything I make so I have a few varried models. I defiantly know I want to do the non-human character of the cast if somebody hasn't done that already.

Oh and I'll compare those to the ones I have on file, though with the spears I'll likely have to remake them from scratch. ^^; Hate to with that awesome Final Fantasy-esque weapon she's got though o.O I'm sure mine will only look bad by comparison.

Well so far we don't have a non-human character, so I doubt anyone has designed one yet. I added several non-human races to the main city, and the story supports pretty much anything happening, so it's just up to someone to add a non-human race :p

No worries about the spear. Variety is good. It takes me sooo long to sprite characters and weapons, and so instead of making a series of weapons, I just make the coolest one I can think of and that's it. That's what Final Fantasy did with Cloud's buster sword. No matter what sword he had equipped, he always had the buster sword in cut scenes.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 04, 2013, 03:26:10 AM
I envy all of your artistic and sprite making skills lol

Edit:

I wanna hear some of the music Dr. Ace created.  Are they midis or mp3s?  I like hearing new game tunes.

I don't have anything uploaded so you'll have to wait your turn. They're .wavs for this project, I employ multiple styles to writing music and for this one I used recorded samples to mix.

EDIT:

Btw, the reason they're .wav is so it loops better. An mp3 has a small section of silence at the start of the track that makes sure it doesn't loop unless you use a fade in and fade out, which I find a cheap way to loop.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 04, 2013, 09:34:04 AM
Sounds good. I'll have to try .wav its just finale's .wav were freakin huge! Like 20+ mb so i'll have to convert them to make them smaller.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 04, 2013, 11:15:10 AM
So, I did the mage guy person.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/ri92ll.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/a2dx6v.png)

Tried to use as many of the poses DB had made, attacking animations work but they look slightly wonky with the hand palcement vs weapon placement.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 04, 2013, 12:26:10 PM
So, I did the mage guy person.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/ri92ll.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/a2dx6v.png)

Tried to use as many of the poses DB had made, attacking animations work but they look slightly wonky with the hand palcement vs weapon placement.

I haven't tried it out in game, but I think it looks awesome. You took what I did in a week and made it look 10x better in like an hour :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 04, 2013, 04:02:49 PM
Sounds good. I'll have to try .wav its just finale's .wav were freakin huge! Like 20+ mb so i'll have to convert them to make them smaller.

That's why I do usually use mp3s, but the small section of silence at the start of an mp3 is so annoying. Luckily, most engines do support choosing how to loop a song, so you can skip the silence. But yeah, most audio designers, from what I gather, prefer oggs or wavs.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 04, 2013, 04:15:38 PM
That's why I do usually use mp3s, but the small section of silence at the start of an mp3 is so annoying. Luckily, most engines do support choosing how to loop a song, so you can skip the silence. But yeah, most audio designers, from what I gather, prefer oggs or wavs.

Is the loop at the end or the beginning of the mp3? This is just me brainstorming, but I'm wondering if there would be a way to make a common event (so it is reusable), that plays an mp3, then cuts it just as it's starting to go silent, then replays it from the beginning so that it actually loops. Granted it would have to line up precisely within 100ms and it would be a lot of work...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 04, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
So, I did the mage guy person.


Tried to use as many of the poses DB had made, attacking animations work but they look slightly wonky with the hand palcement vs weapon placement.

Dude! Nice! Now I don't have to assemble Kyruto's attack animation and can just take the three weapon posses you did. ^_^ That'll shave some time off my hands. Ah weapon placement is always wonky. Especially if they use on frame different than a typical template. But battle animation weapons are free floating and easy to place where you want. ^_- I'll tinker with him but honestly I don't think it will be too hard to do. The spear twilring girl will be much more tricky. ^^;

Well so far we don't have a non-human character, so I doubt anyone has designed one yet. I added several non-human races to the main city, and the story supports pretty much anything happening, so it's just up to someone to add a non-human race :p

No worries about the spear. Variety is good. It takes me sooo long to sprite characters and weapons, and so instead of making a series of weapons, I just make the coolest one I can think of and that's it. That's what Final Fantasy did with Cloud's buster sword. No matter what sword he had equipped, he always had the buster sword in cut scenes.

Awesome! I'll take a look at your species availible and make some ideas in the meantime. Personally, if this wasn't under a time constraint, I'd love to do an egg that travels with the party and hatches into different creatures based onhow it's interacted with...alas I think that'd require WAY too much codding. ^^; Shame that. As for the spears I'll get right on it though it'll still be the tallest order. >.<; Drawing sprites at side angles is tricky for me from scratch so I'll likely use on of my new Lightsaber's as the base since I have almost blank versions of a Light Spear anyway, and some Castlevania weapon sprites for upstanding ones if I can get away with it. Though first I'm going to focus on Kyruto's weapons since I have a ton of staves just sitting around XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 04, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
Awesome! I'll take a look at your species availible and make some ideas in the meantime. Personally, if this wasn't under a time constraint, I'd love to do an egg that travels with the party and hatches into different creatures based onhow it's interacted with...alas I think that'd require WAY too much codding. ^^; Shame that.

That WOULD be awesome, but yeah, probably not good for a chain game. I suggest talking with Moose, Prpl, and Drenrin as they get the game to see if they plan to add a non-human character in their chapters, then you guys can work together to decide who the character will be and what they will look like. I could send you the 5 or so different races I have, but Moose working on the current chapter, or someone who will work on a future chapter may have a completely different non-human race/idea to add, so I feel like I'll be pretty much useless when it comes to content in future chapters haha.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 05, 2013, 02:04:08 AM
Is the loop at the end or the beginning of the mp3? This is just me brainstorming, but I'm wondering if there would be a way to make a common event (so it is reusable), that plays an mp3, then cuts it just as it's starting to go silent, then replays it from the beginning so that it actually loops. Granted it would have to line up precisely within 100ms and it would be a lot of work...
Can experiment to trick the silence length to be a set amount, and it's at the beginning of an mp3. The end has no forced silence.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 05, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
That WOULD be awesome, but yeah, probably not good for a chain game. I suggest talking with Moose, Prpl, and Drenrin as they get the game to see if they plan to add a non-human character in their chapters, then you guys can work together to decide who the character will be and what they will look like. I could send you the 5 or so different races I have, but Moose working on the current chapter, or someone who will work on a future chapter may have a completely different non-human race/idea to add, so I feel like I'll be pretty much useless when it comes to content in future chapters haha.

I'll file it away for later. I have dozen projects I'm on hiatus and a few ideas that haven't even become games. Bane of game making isn't it? All those ideas floating about and you have to focus on only one or you'll go off and forget what you're doing.
Oh got the battle animation weapons for Kyruto to work. Just mapping out the number of weapons I have to stick to it and trying to see if I can get their paired sprites done. Also found my blank light lance template so I'll be experimenting with some spears latter.
Really it'd help if I didn't have to sprite and assemble the sheets, but oh well I'll do my best! ^_^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 05, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
Lady person done as well, feels like the best one so far.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2mgmtsm.png)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1438k9.png)

Both left and right attack animation seem to work with weapons pretty well.

Used less of DBs sprite to get a more orignal thing going, nothing wrong with DBs sprites, they are cool. Just wanted to make it more simmilar to my own style.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 05, 2013, 07:01:56 PM
Lady person done as well, feels like the best one so far.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2mgmtsm.png)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1438k9.png)

Both left and right attack animation seem to work with weapons pretty well.

Used less of DBs sprite to get a more orignal thing going, nothing wrong with DBs sprites, they are cool. Just wanted to make it more simmilar to my own style.

That looks awesome! The only thing I'm good at spriting is dragons. When it comes to humans, I can only sprite a few basic poses, plus I can't do any effects, so I'm glad you went your own style with this ^^

Btw, I had a dream last night where we just finished the chain game, I was a little disappointed when I woke up and realized we are still weeks away :(
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 07, 2013, 07:08:35 PM
A brief note on the lance girl: Here weapons may work better if I just stick to regular weapon poses. Going to test but but if I don't like it I'll add some lances to a sprite sized weapons sheet Val made me once. The staves are working well and I'm
going to round up some more swords before making Jack's official sheet since I have good amount but I'd liek to have a variety if I can.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 07, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
Moose update: I've been very busy, but I have been working on it. Give me till Sunday night and I'll try and just submit what I have.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 08, 2013, 01:21:34 AM
Take your time mooseman.

I was thinking, the later we have our chapters, the more we have to play through. So I better not overdo my chapter or everyone else might have a problem with the time.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on June 08, 2013, 05:37:38 AM
Yeah, maybe people further down the list should get some extra days to play through the game.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 08, 2013, 08:46:55 AM
You're killing us! :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 10, 2013, 11:31:14 AM
Hey Moose, any luck with your chapter?

With the whole time thing, the goal was to set a weeks so people weren't holding on to the chapters for an excessively long time like 3 or 4 weeks. In my past experiences, having development stop while someone just holds on to the game is the quickest way to kill off a chain game :p I think we should try to aim for a week of actual development time, so pretty much one week after you finish playing through the game and can start adding stuff to it. Aim for a week, but if you need little extra time, that's okay. Let's just make sure to not hold on to the game for multiple weeks.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on June 10, 2013, 01:09:40 PM
I'm kinda excited to see everyone's chapters. I'm hoping they're all very different in terms of graphics, gameplay, music, writing and practically everything.

I'm guessing that will be the case, you know, since we're different people.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 10, 2013, 08:53:26 PM
I'm kinda excited to see everyone's chapters. I'm hoping they're all very different in terms of graphics, gameplay, music, writing and practically everything.

I'm guessing that will be the case, you know, since we're different people.

Myself I'm going to use a mixture of my graphics for the charas, but as for battle animations I'll like end up using Oorchi Weapon 3000's animations and if I do go through with adding on characters one will be one I did for Pharye years ago and I don't think she ever used
and the other will be charas Ex or something from my own collection.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 12, 2013, 12:33:58 PM
Almost done! Work consumes my life.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 12, 2013, 01:14:44 PM
Almost done! Work consumes my life.

Yay! ^^ Were you able to add in the new battle chars or do you not think you'll have the time?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 12, 2013, 02:55:29 PM
Yay! ^^ Were you able to add in the new battle chars or do you not think you'll have the time?

I could just add them when I get it otherwise. I already have them on the computer and everthing.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 12, 2013, 05:26:41 PM
are we on chapter tres?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 12, 2013, 06:08:59 PM
are we on chapter tres?

Yup Moose is working on chapter 3 right now. Hopefully Prpl will have the game very soon to start on chapter 4.


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I'm kinda excited to see everyone's chapters. I'm hoping they're all very different in terms of graphics, gameplay, music, writing and practically everything.

I'm guessing that will be the case, you know, since we're different people.

Haha I saw chapter 1 and 2, completely different styles, graphics, music gameplay, but yet fit nicely in the game. So we're off to a good start at least :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 12, 2013, 10:43:42 PM
Good news and bad news on the battle animation weapons. The good news is they will work, bad news is there's a mysterious problem with them being three frames for the attack pose. They make a line appear in the background that I can't
seem to get rid of. It's not in the background of the animation and it only appears on the three animation models. ^_^; So should I proced or do you guys want me to wip up some sprite size battle weapon or just keep using the normal
RTP weapons?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 12, 2013, 11:21:48 PM
Good news and bad news on the battle animation weapons. The good news is they will work, bad news is there's a mysterious problem with them being three frames for the attack pose. They make a line appear in the background that I can't
seem to get rid of. It's not in the background of the animation and it only appears on the three animation models. ^_^; So should I proced or do you guys want me to wip up some sprite size battle weapon or just keep using the normal
RTP weapons?

Well a line doesn't seem too hard to be able to fix. Maybe it's baffling us right now, but considering that we're only just finishing up chapter 3 right now, I think someone will be able to figure out and solve the issue in the next 6 chapters. I say we continue on with what looks best with the hope that we can solve this problem in the next two months.

I expect that even after we finish all 10 chapters, we will need to spend another couple of weeks to polish off these minor issues, balance the battles (for sure for my chapter), and fix any bugs we find.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 13, 2013, 03:54:39 PM
Well a line doesn't seem too hard to be able to fix. Maybe it's baffling us right now, but considering that we're only just finishing up chapter 3 right now, I think someone will be able to figure out and solve the issue in the next 6 chapters. I say we continue on with what looks best with the hope that we can solve this problem in the next two months.


Alright then I'll fill out some weapons in my lab file and transfer them when I get the copy. Though honestly I can't understand why it appears so I hope somebody else has better luck. Kyruto's staves are finished, moving on to Jack's
swords and Yara's spears. When I get the chapter I'll look at any characters people added and analize their weapons style, but until I finish it I won't even try to make any more weapons/replace them with battle animation weapons. Oh
and I know what non-human character I want to add. ^-^ Heh heh heh! It'll be great, just trust me!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 13, 2013, 04:16:28 PM
Quote
I know what non-human character I want to add.  Heh heh heh! It'll be great, just trust me!

But I want to know now! :(
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 14, 2013, 04:40:07 PM
i sent Purp 7 boss themes so he's gonna choose one he likes if any lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 14, 2013, 09:26:09 PM
But I want to know now! :(

Sigh...Alright since you asked I'll give you a hint. Think ancient Rusty only more humanoid and magically powered. Another hint Terry Pratchett's Discoword novel: "Going Postal" had one.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on June 15, 2013, 07:37:53 AM
I expect that even after we finish all 10 chapters, we will need to spend another couple of weeks to polish off these minor issues, balance the battles (for sure for my chapter), and fix any bugs we find.

Sounds good, cause I found three small annoying bugs I want to fix on my chapter. Will take ten min tops to fix it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 16, 2013, 01:56:16 PM
Hate to be that guy, but how's it going Moose?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 18, 2013, 03:43:37 PM
Moose? Moose?! MOOOOOOOOSE??!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 18, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
Let me help you...

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 18, 2013, 08:38:51 PM
I begin to feel Deja Vu. XD Ah he'll be along in a bit...Cause we'll send Ninjas to get him if he doesn't hurry up. >.>
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on June 19, 2013, 02:35:55 AM
Ah the memories.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 19, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
I'll send it to you before I go to sleep tonight prpl. I'm so sorry everyone, work has been nasty and I've been incredibly busy and drained.  I've had fun making my part though; It's not my best work but it's entertaining enough ^_^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 19, 2013, 05:24:56 PM
That's the spirit!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 19, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
I'll send it to you before I go to sleep tonight prpl. I'm so sorry everyone, work has been nasty and I've been incredibly busy and drained.  I've had fun making my part though; It's not my best work but it's entertaining enough ^_^

Yay ^_^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 19, 2013, 07:38:36 PM
And just to prove I wasn't bluffing, I've finished! I just need to work the doohickeys and whatdyamacallits to zip this thing up and send it to prpl.

EDIT: How do you want it, dude? Any preferred file sharing site or dropbox or what?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 19, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
So when it comes to my chapter and I don't do it and you never hear from me, it might be because I was murdered. (being dead up).  But I should be fine lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 20, 2013, 12:06:37 AM
EDIT: How do you want it, dude? Any preferred file sharing site or dropbox or what?

Nah, anything you have. But zip or rar it and upload it for me or something. Just remember to send a copy to DB as well for safekeeping.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 20, 2013, 12:00:41 PM
And the train of progress is back on track! Shame that the ninjas now have no job...=/ ...Until the next person takes too long. >.< *Cue cool 80's gong*
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 20, 2013, 04:45:48 PM
Okay the game looks great so far. Kudos to Moose and the rest.

Two things that I want to bring up.

1. Is it okay that I create some sort of merchant that people can use when their quests are taking place outside of a city present?

2. Would you people mind awfully if I added two characters in my chapter? So far we only have 3 characters during the first 3 chapters of the game so I kinda want to rack it up for some more interesting battles.

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 20, 2013, 05:41:22 PM
Okay the game looks great so far. Kudos to Moose and the rest.

Two things that I want to bring up.

1. Is it okay that I create some sort of merchant that people can use when their quests are taking place outside of a city present?

2. Would you people mind awfully if I added two characters in my chapter? So far we only have 3 characters during the first 3 chapters of the game so I kinda want to rack it up for some more interesting battles.

1. I think it's a good idea. We just need to make sure not to add a traveling merchant in areas where the chapter creator doesn't want a traveling merchant. In FFXIII-2 there was a traveling merchant that somehow managed to travel through time with the party and had shops in places that didn't make sense. I feel like our merchant would be a much less annoying version of that.

2. More characters is good, though once we have more than 4 in the party at the same time, it would be best if we had a party swap system. If we plan to make the game so that no more than 4 characters will ever be in the party at once, then it should be fine not to do add a party changing system.


EDIT: As a complete off topic side note, I'm loving working on this chain game with you guys! At work, I'm leading a development team, and if we don't complete our super ambitious 15 day goal, my company loses $200,000, and if we don't meet our November goal (again super ambitious) we lose another $25 million. Being able to work with a group of people that is just developing something awesome just for fun is great. You guys are amazing!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 21, 2013, 12:00:38 PM
2. Would you people mind awfully if I added two characters in my chapter? So far we only have 3 characters during the first 3 chapters of the game so I kinda want to rack it up for some more interesting battles.

I don't mind you adding two character but send me their weapon info in advance so I can have sheets ready for them. ^_-
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 22, 2013, 04:16:26 AM
I think once this is done we should get Natako or Drakiyth to come back and walkthrough it.  That'd be awesome.

Meiscool suggested something similar a while back... Why do you reckon he chose not to do a section? It'd be awesome.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 22, 2013, 04:38:04 AM
I think once this is done we should get Natako or Drakiyth to come back and walkthrough it.  That'd be awesome.

Meiscool suggested something similar a while back... Why do you reckon he chose not to do a section? It'd be awesome.

I reached out to Meiscool and asked if he would like to create the last chapter, he said it was a possibility. We can only hope.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 22, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
I think once this is done we should get Natako or Drakiyth to come back and walkthrough it.  That'd be awesome.

Meiscool suggested something similar a while back... Why do you reckon he chose not to do a section? It'd be awesome.

Okay this is weird...I was just thinking of using Meis Chips last night before I went to sleep. o.O Did I pick up on your brain waves, or you guys pick up on mine?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 26, 2013, 02:33:13 AM
Oh snap... my turns coming up quick! :x goodluck purp, I cant wait to play this through so far. as it is. Just figured id drop and let you guys know I have been paying attention. ^^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 26, 2013, 03:38:06 PM
Like pretty much everyone before me I feel like I'm running out of time while not being done yet.

Gonna skip some of the animation work and mapping and move on to actual content here. Doesn't help that I'm going away on Friday either...

So, how ready are you Dren?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 30, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
Okay, back from that weekend adventure, I might be done by tonight or tomorrow night, that okay widdja' Dren?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 01, 2013, 06:10:29 PM
Okay, I'll send it to Dren tomorrow. Not gonna postpone this any further.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 01, 2013, 06:58:04 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 02, 2013, 06:18:21 PM
Okay I'm an ***hole. One more day, I beg thee good sirs.

Test played it(for the first time....) and found some bugs that needs fixing before the enxt person can actually get through my chapter. Sorreh.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 03, 2013, 11:22:50 AM
Okay I'm an ***hole. One more day, I beg thee good sirs.

Test played it(for the first time....) and found some bugs that needs fixing before the enxt person can actually get through my chapter. Sorreh.

I say sure. I mean it needs to be playable before the next guy can work on it, right? Personally I don't mind. I need some time to finish my pre-planned monsters and I'm still not sure about my tile sets...Though to be fair I'll have to see what everyone else used anyway before I decide that so that's not so big a deal. But yeah I say you should get at least a day or two to correct errors.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 03, 2013, 12:32:15 PM
You understand my plight prpl. YOU UNDERSTAND
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 03, 2013, 04:35:35 PM
I think we've all been in that boat so far. Except Momeka, who was able to school all of us by finishing in just a few days..

No worries man, all that matters is that it's being worked on. We'll be good as long as we don't end up in a situation where someone has the game and doesn't work on it or disappears to the point where we're all stuck.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 03, 2013, 06:35:38 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand done.

I hope everything turned out right in the end. It would suck to Missingno up the chaingame.

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 03, 2013, 07:44:17 PM
We should keep the strictness up to a point, though. I mean, I was kinda panicking whilst I was overtime which was what made me finish it. I was so busy in general that if I didn't have that sense of urgency I might have been even more late.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on July 04, 2013, 06:14:02 AM
Yeah, we really should keep this week deadline a solid thing to be honest! Although purple's chapter is probably completely worth it :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 04, 2013, 01:54:32 PM
Deadlines are good.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 04, 2013, 02:53:24 PM
Although purple's chapter is probably completely worth it :P

That's all up to the players. But I'd like to think so. '
There might have been some inconsistencies in the end, with spelling mistakes and 1+1 = 3 in logics. Also imbalance like some enemies with too much health and others with too little.

I'm working a 40 hours/week job and spend a weekend with the 'gal canoeing and stuff. So it wasn't like I spent every waking hour of my life on the game for a week.
Not a good thing when you're up late working on animations and monster graphics and realize that you need to take a communion train that leaves in 4 hours. And that it's way past midnight and you should actually be asleep.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 05, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
Sweet! Only one more spot till me! And I've got most of my resources and two plots to choose from already made up. ^_^ This is awesome! This chain game is well on it's way to being the best ever! I couldn't have hopped for more. ^_^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 06, 2013, 04:18:38 PM
Anyone know if Dren gotten the chapter?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 06, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
Not sure, sent it to him but haven't received a reply.

He will probably magically appear if we change the first post to note me as finished and him as "in progress"
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 07, 2013, 10:30:38 PM
Uh oh. Better ready the ninjas.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 08, 2013, 01:30:56 AM
Perhaps in Dren doesn't respond in a few days we could swap Fisherson and Dren? Just as long as Dren didn't actually start already.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on July 08, 2013, 08:55:53 AM
Perhaps in Dren doesn't respond in a few days we could swap Fisherson and Dren? Just as long as Dren didn't actually start already.

Good idea. I'd be gutted to see this come to a halt half way through. Plus, I really want to get my chapter done well, and if this gets dragged out for weeks
I doubt I'll be able to do it :(
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 08, 2013, 07:05:43 PM
Sorry guys, Ive been regularly checking up on this except for this past week. Ive got the game and starting sork on it. Will update. frequently so you guys know Im not sitting on it.

Also, first impressions...

(http://i.qkme.me/3opl8c.jpg)

Other than that, I like the graphics and opening scene. Now if I could get some story progression after 30 minutes of random encounters... xD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on July 08, 2013, 10:44:06 PM
I detest random encounters.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 08, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
I detest random encounters.

I know what you mean. I personally plan to use the TES I made for my chapter. I prefer monsters where I can see them.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 09, 2013, 01:08:34 AM
Feel free to lower the encounter rate in my chapter :p I haven't used the default battle system in rm2k3 in many o year, and setting the encounter rate to a lower number didn't seem to do a thing, and then I ran out of time and left it >_<
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 09, 2013, 01:44:10 AM
If you set the Encounter Multiplier in the terrain settings to even 75% it becomes a chore to even get a random encounter.  Discovered that recently.  Also, it makes it easy to create tiles that have no random encounters by just changing the terrain to a different one with encounters set at 0%.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on July 09, 2013, 10:51:35 AM
I usually do it depending on map size.  So for smaller ones, 25-30 and larger ones 35-50 range.  But that's just me.  Works out.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 09, 2013, 12:21:26 PM
Yeah, I think DB's section made sure no-one else put many battles in their sections XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 10, 2013, 10:08:26 AM
I just really hate the rm battle system so decided to skip it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 10, 2013, 01:16:48 PM
Self esteem == broken :'(

Anyway, someone should really fix the battles then, or I can do it as we fix up the game once all 10 chapters are complete. If it is as simple as dropping the difficulty % for the tiles, that should be pretty easy. If we drop the random encounters to 1/2 or 1/3 to what they are now, we should increase the xp and gold dropped by 2x or 3x so we don't break gameplay for later bosses/battles.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 11, 2013, 10:55:46 PM
I'll see if I can't do something nifty with the random battle encounters. I have an idea that can be nixed pretty simply if it doesn't work. Also, I'm dead stuck in the first town (read spoiler). Not sure if I missed this a few pages back, but is there a changelog or anything that goes with this for each chapter?

[spoiler]
I seem to be ready to leave, I got the dude his toilet paper and he told me where Kyruto is, but I still can not leave the town. Jack says, "I am not ready to leave town yet." Not sure what else I'm suppose to do.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 11, 2013, 11:06:26 PM
[spoiler]You still have a bit to go. Kyruto is hiding out in the church, which is on the same map as the exit. Go find Kyruto, and return to Le'duche's manor, some events will happen, and you will be able to leave town. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 11, 2013, 11:10:27 PM
[spoiler] thanks! I feel stupid, the guy clearly says that, but I just assumed for some reason I'd be leaving the town and heading west somewhere. [/spoiler]

Okay, so I'm making it my mission to finish playing through tonight. I know i'm kind of already a little behind schedule.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 12, 2013, 12:17:06 AM
You can do it! But honestly you have a long ways to go.. The moment you leave the front gate is the end of chapter 1 (even though Momeka technically says chapter 2 starts a bit later), and then you have chapter 2, 3, and 4 to play through. Personally I haven't played through 3 or 4 yet, but I'm just going to assume they are awesome and not something you can do in 5 minutes :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 12, 2013, 12:28:48 AM
I'm on Chapter 3, and I'm thinking I might buy a ticket to England and strangle Moosetroop. xD

EDIT: Working my way through Chapter 4, but seriously guys, you made the normal battles way too hard with very little reward :<
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 12, 2013, 01:35:19 AM
Yeah there's kind of a big chance that I gave my monster too much HP, I think I mentioned that somewhere... Or maybe I didn't.

I kind of mostly test my battles in the monster group section so y'know. You enter the combat with full HP and MP and when you win it's over. No real consequences.
That's kinda why I added a free Inn at the area 2 north of the travelling merchant.

But good thing that you pointed it out, that's one of the things worth balancing later on. Or soon.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on July 12, 2013, 11:03:52 AM
Can't tell you how many times I've had to fix my monsters in my game in order to sustain balance.  I like to believe I did a good job at it lol. 

They're basically kinda hard to kill at first, takes a few hits but then as you gain a level or a new skills etc, they can take only 1 or 2 hits. 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 12, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
My monsters make up for low HP by begin smart. For example I've made a create with low DEF but has the ability to disappear and re-appear at will, I learned from a game I played how to make a critter tranfrom from a High EXP pain in the but to
a smaller less rewarding creature if you took too long with it, creatures that if they get up to their forth turn can really mess you day up and even some who just act like players. Such as the DHG Level 8 Soldiers. They heal themselves if their HP gets too
low. Oh and monster pairings! X3 Love doing those.. Like how one critter will send spells at you that cripple your ability to fight while the other does all the damage. Then putting in the battle code if oe creature is killed to have the other
do something special like explode, run away or use a powerful skill it can't use other wise. I love the number of things the DBS can do. I mean you can even create a special code to revive monsters in battle. o.O I finally tracked that little bit
of info down on a old file from way back when. Comes in handy if you have boss with two minions who you don't want the hero just taking out easily. Or worse focusing the party on killing them only to find the boss just revived them! XD Oh what
fun I will have in my chapter! The thing I'm worried about it making some side quests for re-playability after I finish my chapter. I really want to make some tough ones that will force you to either stay in the chapter and figure it out or better yet
start over when you've been the final boss and all.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 12, 2013, 01:05:22 PM
When everyone's done someone can go through and sort out the battles. I suggest we have some sort of awesome meeting over some sort of messaging thing so we can organise everything together.

Dren, feel free to come to England to strangle me. If it isn't fatal we can hang out!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 13, 2013, 11:28:28 AM
I don't have much of a plan for a chapter, so mine will be short, but it will be short 'cuz I think I'm gonna tackle that character swap system.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 13, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
When everyone's done someone can go through and sort out the battles. I suggest we have some sort of awesome meeting over some sort of messaging thing so we can organise everything together.

Dren, feel free to come to England to strangle me. If it isn't fatal we can hang out!

The first idea is a brilliant! But the second....*Waits for Archem to come around and turn that into something dirty*...In fact I'm surprised he wasn't here a few minutes ago. o.O He's slipping isn't he?

I don't have much of a plan for a chapter, so mine will be short, but it will be short 'cuz I think I'm gonna tackle that character swap system.

Thank you Dren!! ^_^ That'll give me even more time and room for death traps and such. >=D
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 18, 2013, 11:52:04 AM
I do not like to double post buuuuut....Updates!! I demand updates! *Dalek voice*
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 22, 2013, 12:10:45 AM
So, two things happened. I'm currently in the middle of moving into an apartment, so things are kind of chaotic as far as that's concerned. Then today, I went and sliced my hand wide open on some construction aluminum my step dad had in the yard. Had four stitches put in. So my hand is kind of messed up for at least a few days before the swelling goes down and I won't need gauze on my whole hand. I'm hoping to get you guys my chapter soon, will keep you all posted.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 22, 2013, 10:22:35 AM
Do take care of yourself, if you feel that you cannot do this at the moment feel free to pass it along to the next person and do the chapter after instead.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 22, 2013, 11:42:42 AM
So, two things happened. I'm currently in the middle of moving into an apartment, so things are kind of chaotic as far as that's concerned. Then today, I went and sliced my hand wide open on some construction aluminum my step dad had in the yard. Had four stitches put in. So my hand is kind of messed up for at least a few days before the swelling goes down and I won't need gauze on my whole hand. I'm hoping to get you guys my chapter soon, will keep you all posted.

WORK THROUGH THE PAIN!!! PAIN IS ONLY IN YOUR MIND!!1
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on July 22, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
WORK THROUGH THE PAIN!!! PAIN IS ONLY IN YOUR MIND!!1

ONE MORE REP, ONE MORE REP!!!! HAAARRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 23, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
ONE MORE REP, ONE MORE REP!!!! HAAARRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!
AGONY IS JUST IN THE MOMENT! REOPENED WOUNDS CAN BE WORRIED ABOUT TOMORROW! THE CHAIN GAME WILL BE ETERNAL!!!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 24, 2013, 11:55:01 AM
So, two things happened. I'm currently in the middle of moving into an apartment, so things are kind of chaotic as far as that's concerned. Then today, I went and sliced my hand wide open on some construction aluminum my step dad had in the yard. Had four stitches put in. So my hand is kind of messed up for at least a few days before the swelling goes down and I won't need gauze on my whole hand. I'm hoping to get you guys my chapter soon, will keep you all posted.

Whoa sounds like you had a rough week! O.O; Take you time. Personal injury is always above reproach...Well unless your on a team working for money. Then they might not be as a nice as me at this moment. <.< And you can always hand it off
to me. I'm ready and rearin' to go!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 24, 2013, 01:26:46 PM
Tip of the day: Take what you planned and cut that in half, then cut what remains in half. Now you should be able to finish in a week.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on July 24, 2013, 01:31:41 PM
Due to the... delayed nature of things, I might not be able to do a chapter :( I'll see anyway. I'd love to give it an... "alternative" twist ;)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 24, 2013, 04:29:28 PM
Due to the... delayed nature of things, I might not be able to do a chapter :( I'll see anyway. I'd love to give it an... "alternative" twist ;)

Would it work if we switched you with another person so you could have a week where you have time to work on it?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on July 25, 2013, 09:14:20 AM
I'll check mah calendar, DB. I have lots of uni work, personal projects, a job, the gym, a needy family, needy friends and 3 martial arts to attend to :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 25, 2013, 11:35:20 AM
I'll check mah calendar, DB. I have lots of uni work, personal projects, a job, the gym, a needy family, needy friends and 3 martial arts to attend to :p

But but we're your family... And this chain game is your job..
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 26, 2013, 02:17:27 AM
Well... I just got internet at my place put in. Everything's kind of a mess right now, to be completely honest. Blah, I've done almost nothing with my chapter and I don't know when I'll be able to find time. Zuhane, if you want, I could send you what little I've done, it's just a few things Purple asked me to do. I didn't mess with the encounter rates in DB's chapter. That way, when your chapter comes around I'll be able to put some time aside and actually do something. Is everyone okay with that? I'm real sorry guys, I wasn't expecting to move it all happened so suddenly.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 26, 2013, 02:39:46 AM
No problamos Dren, these things aren't easy. Especially when life gets involved.

If Zuhane only can do his chapter now then perhaps it's for the best that he gets it now and let Fish and Daoman do theirs afterwards. Just y'know, for convenience. I hope that none of those guys gets like offended that their turns might get postponed though.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on July 26, 2013, 07:22:44 AM
Hahaha, looking at my calendar, it might make sense that I actually do it IN the allocated time slot now. The next few weeks are hell, but next week and
this week are particularly hell-like. I don't wanna rush my chapter, and I'd like to put a few clever programming ideas in, etc.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 26, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
No problamos Dren, these things aren't easy. Especially when life gets involved.

If Zuhane only can do his chapter now then perhaps it's for the best that he gets it now and let Fish and Daoman do theirs afterwards. Just y'know, for convenience. I hope that none of those guys gets like offended that their turns might get postponed though.

I don't mind. I'll do mine whenever if comes up. Even if it's the next to last. Though I would prefer it to be earlier than that due to the idea I want to try.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 28, 2013, 12:00:14 PM
So this is back on tracks? Fisherguy have taken over for Dren?


No?

Then lets get it back on track.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 28, 2013, 03:15:15 PM
So this is back on tracks? Fisherguy have taken over for Dren?


No?

Then lets get it back on track.

Gasp! Wait! You can't give my chapter away to Fisherguy! >.< That dude has been trying to muscle in on my turf for years! Sodding bastard.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 28, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
Question: Is there still a spot left? I might be considering doing a short chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 28, 2013, 04:04:44 PM
Chapter 10 is free. Creating the finale might not be what you had in mind though... : p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 28, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Chapter 10 is free. Creating the finale might not be what you had in mind though... : p

Why not? So many finales are huge and filled with meaningless text and killing off of vital characters and other such time wasters. Why not have a short ending?

Hero: Ho! We are here to thwart ye, villain! *Battle scene*

Villian: Darn you! You got me...Ugh...*is knocked down*

Hero:...*Looks around* Um is that it?

Villain: *Breifly revives* What? You wanted a more challenging battle?

Hero: And some other stuff! Your supposed to change forms and stuff and then I'm supposed to have to nearly kill all my party to beat you. Then we all have cake there's a wedding and the land is safe!

Villain: Hmmmm...*Considering voice* Nah! That's way to over done. This is more realistic and reality is fun! *CBS Theme*
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 29, 2013, 01:13:10 AM
If zuhane is fine with my idea, I will send him the finished project tomorrow night. That being roughly 7 PM EST (Eastern Coast of America USA United States of America US Time).
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 29, 2013, 06:28:38 AM
If zuhane is fine with my idea, I will send him the finished project tomorrow night. That being roughly 7 PM EST (Eastern Coast of America USA United States of America US Time).

Don't think Z had time right now, probably better if you send it to Fish (or Ace if he should take your place).
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 29, 2013, 10:36:38 AM
What's the estimate when I can start working on the finale?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on July 29, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
2014
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 29, 2013, 12:15:48 PM
2014

I should be able to fit it into December 2014 / January 2015.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 29, 2013, 12:47:41 PM
Yeah, better go for Fish , sounds like Zuhane is a busy man
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 29, 2013, 08:03:12 PM
Yeah, better go for Fish , sounds like Zuhane is a busy man


*Pumps arms and whoots* Ragh! Send me the demo!! I shall crush it! ....Or try work like mad to finish and chapter and send it on. Haven't decided yet. XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on July 29, 2013, 10:31:32 PM
When's it my turn so i can get it over with? lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on August 02, 2013, 04:08:43 AM
Have fish gotten the chapter yet? Maybe purple should send his copy Unless fish plans to use what dren have actually made so far.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 02, 2013, 04:54:34 AM
Sure, I could send it to fish, but Dren would have to do his thing from the start next time he gets it. No big woop I guess.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on August 02, 2013, 06:54:56 AM
Do it, it's been standing still for far too long.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 02, 2013, 11:55:07 AM
I've already thought up of a really really really "stupid" but awesome idea.  It's gonna be so random.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 02, 2013, 12:06:09 PM
Have fish gotten the chapter yet? Maybe purple should send his copy Unless fish plans to use what dren have actually made so far.

I have gotten the Chain Game. May take me till the end of the weekend. Ah DL timer says seven hours....Well we'll see. Sometimes it says days and it only takes twenty minutes. I'll update you guys when I have it. I'll need to play
through it though so I can see if anybody has used an idea similar to mine. Oh and unless somebody can spot me some tracks I'll just recyle some of mine from Warped, Misadventures and some others. If you want to send me music links just PM me and I'll tell you what I need. It won't be much.

EDIT: Tried to DL it with my dial up. It didn't work. I'll get straight to work on Monday if I can get a ride to the library.

IT IS MINE!! THE POWER RAAAAAGH!!...Also I got the Chain Game. XD I'd be playing with right now but the library PCs won't let me install anything anymore. =/ Should be done in a day. I'm gonna cheat my way through so I can work on my chapter quickly. XD Wish me luck boys and girl!

I'm stuck on chapter 3 right now but have no fear I'm going to keep playing and ask Purps what's next.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 07, 2013, 01:49:22 AM
Awesome, after a long time of no progress, we're finally about to start development again ^^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on August 07, 2013, 03:19:49 AM
Good to hear, make something cool.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on August 07, 2013, 03:24:38 AM
Yo DB, give me #10.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on August 07, 2013, 12:59:26 PM
So... I never sent fish the chain game, for all intents and purposes he's working on chapter 5. It's been one **** after another with me. My laptop finally kicked the bucket after my last post on this thread. Kind of my own fault, the screen and the bottom(?keys?) have been disconnected at the hinges. I went and dropped it and the whole thing just disintegrated. I'm typing this at my college computer lab. Real sorry about wasting so much time guys. :x I'd love to do a chapter still but I doubt I'll have a working laptop in a timely manner. By the way, if I didn't send Fish anything, what the hell does he have? xD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 07, 2013, 01:25:41 PM
By the way, if I didn't send Fish anything, what the hell does he have? xD

The version you received from me pretty much. I sent it to him.

And it's no problem at all, just let us know when you are able to make your chapter and we'll squeeze you in on the list.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on August 07, 2013, 01:43:49 PM
As long as I get the last one I'm happy.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 07, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
Good to hear, make something cool.

Oh that I was already planing to do. Little bit of humor, allot of crazy sci-fi neo fantasy and just pinch of alchemy. X3

Gaming Report: Did all the chapters.

1: Pretty fun, though some NPCs are a little over used considering the amount available.
2: I loved this one so much! XD Seriously Momeka very nice work! It was fun to play and I loved the gameplay style change up.
3: I liked it till I realized you had no "run" script for your TES, MT, and that tiger run maze thing...Well I had to cheat to get past it. ^^; It literally nearly drove me insane.
4: Best chapter so far. Loved the story, loved the mini game and the addition of save points. The thing I found a little irritating is some f yoru chapter feels rushed in places, but it more
than makes up for that with the inventive enemies, great TES WITH a useful run system. ^_^ Veyr good work.
Total game rating: Even better than the first! X3 Seriously just these four chapters have been great!

Chapter 5 Progress:
Status: Very little. Working on the first cut scene and dungeon. At least I have plenty of resources since there's a bunch of unused ones in the chara sets folder. Need to make a little picture thing saying "Capter 5" but I'll work on that
last most likely. I have TERRIBLE ability with pics. -  -; The only thing that worries me is I changed just a little of my original idea after seeing some of the game's storyline. Going to stick to most of it but I'm not going to go 100% with my awesome
idea since I've had the game all of two days and haven't quite got off the ground. Have faith though! I'm awesome and I'll work on it as much as my eyes allow me...even with all the flashes in the game so far XD Good thing I'm not as seizurified as I used
to be.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on August 07, 2013, 06:01:23 PM
Oh ****, this game has TES'!?

Count me out, those things are ****ing scary.
The hell is a TES?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on August 08, 2013, 03:28:13 AM
What's a TES? I've been out of the rpg maker loop for too long.

Also the progress thing on the first page is wrong. We're on chapter five not six.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 08, 2013, 11:13:59 AM
I think he's talking about enemies walking around on the maps rather than random encounters.
Moose had those and I had those so it would make sense. No idea why bluhman hates them though.  You could simply not use them in your chapter and it's cool. Kinda like how I wanted save points in my chapter. Anyone after me could simply go back to menu save again.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on August 08, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
Moose had those and I had those so it would make sense. No idea why bluhman hates them though.

Neither do I.

Seriously, the hell does TES even stand for
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 08, 2013, 12:57:11 PM
The Elder Scrolls?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 08, 2013, 01:13:42 PM
Tactical encounter system? Topside enemy spawn? No clue.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on August 08, 2013, 01:18:29 PM
Tertiary Enema Squad? Titillating Embalming Snacks? 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 08, 2013, 04:32:20 PM
Neither do I.

Seriously, the hell does TES even stand for

Touch Encounter System. It means you can see the enemies and when you bump into a random monster it will activate the battle mode. Love them. Purps added a extra feature though he made it so you can't tell what you'll encounter. I finished the first part
of my chapter, the cutscene and loose ends bits and am working on my next two maps. Oh and liek Dren I cut my stupid hand. >.- Just a minor injury but I have to wonder...<.< Is the Chain Game Cursed? Probably not but either way I'm not letting stop me. I will be done with my next two maps
by tonight if the weather permits. Focusing 100% on the main quest missions and only going to add two more members to the cast. I was originally going to have the second be a guest character that got tragically killed at the end after it betrayed the party but
I realize for the part I want to do I'll need one more character. Anywho two days in technically and I'd say 20% done and I haven't even done one single monster battle, puzzle or boss yet.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on August 08, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Touch Encounter System.

Oh right. Yeah. Gotcha. That's totally a  (http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TES)term used everywhere. Also, in all honesty, way better than random monster stuff, so that's that.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 08, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
Also the progress thing on the first page is wrong. We're on chapter five not six.

Yes, Fish is doing chapter 5. Dren will make a chapter when he's back in the game, so to speak.

Oh right. Yeah. Gotcha. That's totally a  (http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TES)term used everywhere. Also, in all honesty, way better than random monster stuff, so that's that.

Yeah, I knew what he was talking about but I'm not certain it's a commonly accepted abbreviation.

Focusing 100% on the main quest missions and only going to add two more members to the cast. I was originally going to have the second be a guest character that got tragically killed at the end after it betrayed the party but
I realize for the part I want to do I'll need one more character. Anywho two days in technically and I'd say 20% done and I haven't even done one single monster battle, puzzle or boss yet.

Just don't kill yourself trying to do something really spectacular. Aim at getting the game done with a considerable amount of work put into it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 08, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
We may need to go through the game and make all the encounters TES instead of some TES and some random.. Or mainly I want an excuse to redo the painfully bad encounters in my chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 08, 2013, 06:28:29 PM
I used random encounters in placed where there's puzzles that could be interrupted or bugged by charset enemies walking around. Pretty much one place.

Also, should be avoided in narrow passages. But yeah.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 08, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
Oh word?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on August 08, 2013, 08:16:48 PM
We may need to go through the game and make all the encounters TES instead of some TES and some random.. Or mainly I want an excuse to redo the painfully bad encounters in my chapter.

For the sake of letting this ever get finished, I'd vote against it. It's already delayed for being a relatively simple idea and doing extra work post-completion on it only seems like overcomplicating it in my opinion. Sometimes you just have to learn to live with the fact your baby has a handicap, if you catch my drift.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 09, 2013, 02:40:57 AM
For the sake of letting this ever get finished, I'd vote against it. It's already delayed for being a relatively simple idea and doing extra work post-completion on it only seems like overcomplicating it in my opinion. Sometimes you just have to learn to live with the fact your baby has a handicap, if you catch my drift.

But if I just had two days.. Well you're right. Though I do think that after everyone finished their chapters (aka the game is "complete") we should spend a bit of time to polish it off and balance the gameplay. It won't delay anyone, and it will make the overall experience better.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Cerebus on August 09, 2013, 02:43:39 AM
Or, or... listen to this... release the game as is when it's complete, and then make an edited version afterward! Or something.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 09, 2013, 03:35:19 AM
A beta version? Yes, and then release the final version when we go though and sort all issues? Mmm yes.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 09, 2013, 04:39:31 AM
Charas chaingame 2013 (hopefully), the uncut version.

And Charas chaingame 2013, the revised edition.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on August 09, 2013, 06:36:24 AM
That's a great idea! I'm so excited at the idea of this being completed :D
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 09, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Just don't kill yourself trying to do something really spectacular. Aim at getting the game done with a considerable amount of work put into it.

Oh trust me. I've adjusted my idea quite a few times so it'll fit in the time given. ^_- I'm nothing if not flexible. Currently straightening out my second cut scene. A note on that: I'm not going to fix spelling and grammar issues since I'm so contained for time. If I have time I'll go back but otherwise unless it effects a quest or side quest I won't bother too much with fixing them for now.

As for making a beta and then a edited version I'm all for it. Heck I secretly tweaked the first Chain Game so it had a extra ending and have plans later to add in more stuff and then possibly re-release. Especially since it's old thread is long buried. We should sticky it in Completed Games and Demos.


Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 09, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
i guess itll be another 2-3 weeks til my turn.  I wish i had motivation to work on my other game though.  Sigh...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 10, 2013, 08:06:33 PM
Hopefully it'll be closer to two weeks, but you'll have it soon! Motivation is a funny thing isn't it? I always get motivation to work on side projects when I'm at work, but when I have free time, I mainly have motivation to watch TV.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 10, 2013, 09:52:17 PM
Hopefully it'll be closer to two weeks, but you'll have it soon! Motivation is a funny thing isn't it? I always get motivation to work on side projects when I'm at work, but when I have free time, I mainly have motivation to watch TV.

Heh I know that feeling well. I get allot of ideas by sitting and watching TV though so it's not an unfair trade. Chain Game Report: Thinking I'm coming down with something, but I'm going to keep at my work though I think I may need a few
days over a week. A puzzle I want to make for a dungeon is giving me some trouble, nothing I can't handle, but it may take me some extra days to work it out. Only going to use it one more time in this dungeon then I can get to the real fun of filling in the TES enemies and put in some more cut scenes. Which reminds me. Other than spell checking I'm 100% done with my first two...well I do need to go back and add a narrative so the player doesn't feel whamyed by the sudden change in script but that is a minor detail I'll save for IF I get done with this @*#^$&@(#&* first dungeon. Hard to believe it's small but it was not having an interior chip set that matched that slowed me down. Had to recolor one and it's...garish. >.- But it works. Also it's necessary for there to be any story to my chapter that this bit get finished and I think I can do it in a day, but then again the puzzle I ripped off a game I played when I was ten so I thought that'd take a day and I made a mistake while doing it that requires me to go back and replace several dozen events. @-@ But at least I have some monsters and some skills. That bit was easy. I copy pasted a skill I ripped from CD and I plan to copy past some from Misadventures to save time too. Heck I even changed my script a few times so it looks nothing like the original. Going to be two dungeons, one rather small and more puzzle based than the other which is larger, but less strategic and more "survival mode". It'll contain two boss battles of importance and not even that many monsters. All in all I'm working hard to complete it by the deadline.

Update: Actually it looks like I'll have it for a few more days past the deadline anyway. I don't think I can get a ride to the library till next monday if then. Though at least I made a ton of progress I predict I may be done before then. May have time to even dot the i's and cross the t's. I will try to upload it from my connection in the three days I have left but I wouldn't count on that. It's not...well...fast. ^^; It may leave data behind or fail entirely.

Update to update: I am 50% done right now. Just working on the cut scenes and filling in some maps. I've not done one side quest or anything and I figured out a easy way to do my puzzle so that won't be giving me much trouble. I have roughly 18+ scenes to do, though I may cut out a good bit of them and just do 10 or 12. I managed to even snag all the music I'll need from old files. Working right even as we speak to finish that first dungeon and get on to the serious stuff. Real quests and all that so there will be more meat to this thing. Ah also I have all my monsters but some minor ones I can add quickly when it comes to it. Very proud of that fact.

Update to update to update:
Okay I'm down to eight stages that need to filled in, and five cut scenes. I predict I'll be done tonight or tomorrow. Wish me luck!...and post. o.o Seriously I' feel a bit lonely with no new posts in days...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 14, 2013, 02:47:11 PM
Well, you keep editing so the thread isn't bumped up to the top. Hard to know that you actually replied.

And yay almost done!

I suppose the game goes to Daoman now unless Dren is ready for his?

Also send a backup to DB.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 14, 2013, 03:03:08 PM
Well, you keep editing so the thread isn't bumped up to the top. Hard to know that you actually replied.

And yay almost done!

I suppose the game goes to Daoman now unless Dren is ready for his?

Also send a backup to DB.

Ah I see! XD I wondered if I wasn't in "ground hog day" mode again like the site did to me last time. Alright I should be able to get it done tonight. Down to...
7 Cutscenes, and a few rooms with some code to handle the last couple of a boss battles and ofcourse a quick test play to see if everything runs alright...Unless you guys want to just send it the minute it's a 100%?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 14, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
Ah I see! XD I wondered if I wasn't in "ground hog day" mode again like the site did to me last time. Alright I should be able to get it done tonight. Down to...
7 Cutscenes, and a few rooms with some code to handle the last couple of a boss battles and ofcourse a quick test play to see if everything runs alright...Unless you guys want to just send it the minute it's a 100%?

Haha I read the updates, but I guess I didn't have to much to say other than posting three different 'hurray!' messages :p

Anyway, you should definitely do the quick test play before sending it. No one would know how to fix any issues/bugs in your chapter better than you, and doing a test run will help flush out any of those issues. It'd be much better to spend an extra day or two fixing any issues that come up rather then sending the next person a broken game :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 14, 2013, 10:27:20 PM
Haha I read the updates, but I guess I didn't have to much to say other than posting three different 'hurray!' messages :p

Anyway, you should definitely do the quick test play before sending it. No one would know how to fix any issues/bugs in your chapter better than you, and doing a test run will help flush out any of those issues. It'd be much better to spend an extra day or two fixing any issues that come up rather then sending the next person a broken game :)

Alright then. I'll give 'er a test play when I'm done which I now have three levels, 6 cutscenes as soon as I take the bug out of this one. >.<; Stupid invisible events that disappear, but are on the same layer seem to be getting me allot! XD Oh I imported some weapons graphics for Jack and Kyruto's weps. I just had them lying around and said "Why not?" I'm going to tell you don't expect allot of variety in the monsters for my chapter. I need to add some more since I only have two types in the first dungeon so far and one int he final area, though it has some sub types unlike the others. I'm also not going to make a lot of skills and I want to tell you that the second character I introduced will leave the party after the chapter is done. She was only supposed to help even out the player's numbers in the original one because Jack was supposed to be out of commission. But I threw out that plan and went with something else. Oh I increased the duration of Rage's effects so it last longer. It wouldn't last long enough for me to get to attack and utilize it's power boost XD It was very frustrating. I also added a condition Valor playing of Le'cravat's old and awesome skill. It's just basically
"Protect".
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 16, 2013, 10:40:39 PM
New Progress report and double posting this so you'll get the update. I have one level, one minor puzzle and a four cut scenes left. UI predict I will be done with the game before Monday, but likely I'll still have to get a ride to the library. I will,
as said previously, try to upload it on my internet, but it's slow and may fail. Heck one of the reasons I didn't release a demo for Misadventures was I couldn't get the site to load so maybe it'll work or more likely I'll end up quoting the screen
Jafa, Klingon and some lesser known Earth tongues. As it is the chapter is going well. I'm about to add some more monster, completed my second mini boss and I even had time to put in a side scroler-like mini game. Forgot the code to make a mario-like
jump system though and the enemies are all one hit kill, but eh it's diverting and it gave me an idea for a type of gaming I've never taken seriously before. Let's see...I haven't started on my smaller shops and things, other than placing the traveling
owl near my first dungeon, and I need to check over my boss codding but other than that I'm doing great! Wish me luck, guys!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on August 19, 2013, 06:55:45 AM
Oooooh, I'm excited! Will this be ready in the scheduled 2 weeks? I have some crazy and wonderful (and horrible) ideas to chuck in there!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on August 19, 2013, 07:53:32 AM
I wouldn't count on it. Daoman needs to get it, play through it and make his chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 19, 2013, 08:50:15 AM
I wouldn't count on it. Daoman needs to get it, play through it and make his chapter.

if a chapter keeps kicking my butt, ill just cheat and make the boss battle disappear for a moment. I wont be adjusting others chapters unless something is really broken, but im assuming previous chapter makers fixed them anyways.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on August 19, 2013, 09:58:46 AM
Ah yeah, this 1-week thing pretty much completely went out the window. Good to see it's making progress though!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 19, 2013, 01:44:10 PM
Ah yeah, this 1-week thing pretty much completely went out the window. Good to see it's making progress though!

Yeah. Good thing we didn't say each person will get two weeks though, otherwise everyone would have the game for a few months.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on August 19, 2013, 08:14:13 PM
I suggest, Fish, that once you've had exactly a month (so the second of September) if you still haven't finished, you submit what you have. After all, the point of the deadline was to not let people get carried away and make too much ; )
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Meiscool on August 19, 2013, 09:46:15 PM
I agree with the above.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 19, 2013, 10:02:10 PM
i feel like this game should've been finished a week ago lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on August 20, 2013, 02:51:25 PM
i feel like this game should've been finished a week ago lol

It should've been finished a month ago.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 20, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
It should've been finished a month ago.

This is more accurate..

Lets say we started May 12th. Ten weeks would be July 14th.

But you know, **** happens. We are still working on this, and its looking promising that the game will be finished, even if it will be finished way behind schedule.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 20, 2013, 06:07:38 PM
lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 22, 2013, 11:42:50 AM
So I think Fisherson is done, he sent me a copy of his completed chapter. The problem is that the link was wrong, he uploaded the wrong file, or I'm really missing something when I attempt to download it. Hopefully we can get everything sorted out today :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 22, 2013, 02:58:54 PM
Oh word?  Who's after Fisherbull anyways?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 22, 2013, 03:43:36 PM
Should be you, he sent me the link earlier and asked me to check it out so I can prolly forward it to you.


Okay, not gonna send it to you. Apaprently the starting party and starting position is off compared to earlier. So it's not finished yet, hold on for another day or something.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 22, 2013, 04:03:22 PM
all right, cool.  I shouldn't have any problems since I'm so used to Rm2k3.  It should be fun!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 22, 2013, 11:22:37 PM
Oh word?  Who's after Fisherbull anyways?

Fisherbull? In the old days I'd fry you with lightning, but I'm older and more mature now...I have even more devious torture methods! >=D Nah look here's the dealio: I uploaded the Chain Game to a brand new box account at the library and when
I came home later that day I found out I gave DB the wrong link so now I'm waiting to see if I gave him the right one before I send it to you to avoid anymore headaches. @-@ I mantain my belief the chain game is cursed.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 23, 2013, 09:15:11 AM
Fisherbull? In the old days I'd fry you with lightning, but I'm older and more mature now...I have even more devious torture methods! >=D Nah look here's the dealio: I uploaded the Chain Game to a brand new box account at the library and when
I came home later that day I found out I gave DB the wrong link so now I'm waiting to see if I gave him the right one before I send it to you to avoid anymore headaches. @-@ I mantain my belief the chain game is cursed.

Lol ive given other ppl here worse nickname combinations. Watch me get a computer virus from the game lol.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 23, 2013, 12:07:19 PM
Fisherbull? In the old days I'd fry you with lightning, but I'm older and more mature now...I have even more devious torture methods! >=D Nah look here's the dealio: I uploaded the Chain Game to a brand new box account at the library and when
I came home later that day I found out I gave DB the wrong link so now I'm waiting to see if I gave him the right one before I send it to you to avoid anymore headaches. @-@ I mantain my belief the chain game is cursed.


... I got an email linking to a deviant art account :( Perhaps we need to exorcize the chain game?
Fisherbowl, you should test the link once you send it to make sure it's the chain game download. :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on August 23, 2013, 12:08:39 PM
Checking in as per! Not long now, can't wait. To people who've actually played the game: how's it shaping up?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on August 23, 2013, 01:32:30 PM
LOL fisherbowl.  What have i started?  Btw since you're more mature, shouldn't you be FisherMAN now?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on August 24, 2013, 01:58:57 PM
Did someone delete the latest posts or am I bugging?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Archem on August 24, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
No, I got rid of the previous series of posts. They were damaging to the topic, and I decided to get rid of them in an attempt to get things back on track.

For those who missed it, Daoman dropped out due to personal problems with Drace and word choices (primarily semantics, the stupidest of all things to argue over). I will not tolerate any more of it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 24, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
Thanks Archem.

So status update: Fisherson still hasn't gotten the final version to us, but we have a version with his completed chapter, except the starting position, stats, and items are wrong. I was going to manually go and fix it last night and send it on, but I ended up going to the bars instead.. Either Fisherson or I will have a correct version uploaded and passed on this weekend.

Since Daoman is unfortunately out, Zuhane will be next. Zuhane, it seems like you're free to start working on it right away correct?

Finally, we'll need to find a 10th person for the chain game. A chain game with 9 chapters just doesn't feel like a chain game..
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on August 24, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
I still want last chapter, so it'll be for chapter slot 9.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 24, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
I still want last chapter, so it'll be for chapter slot 9.

Sure thing.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on August 25, 2013, 03:03:29 AM
Shouldn't this

Quote
1. DragonBlaze (complete)
2. Momeka (complete)
3. Moosetroop11 (complete)
4. Prpl_Mage (complete)
5. drenrin2120 (complete)
6. Fisherson (something)
7. zuhane (maybe next?)
8. Bluhman
9. WHO WILL IT BE!?
10. Dr. Ace

be this

Quote
1. DragonBlaze (complete)
2. Momeka (complete)
3. Moosetroop11 (complete)
4. Prpl_Mage (complete)
5. Fisherson (complete)
6. zuhane
7. Bluhman
8. WHO WILL IT BE!?
9. WHO WILL IT BE!?
10. Dr. Ace

?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on August 25, 2013, 07:48:06 AM
Yeah, I'll keep checking these forums regularly so I can get my chapter done in (hopefully) a week as set :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 25, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Gonna upload the game in just a bit. So I reset the levels of the characters to their proper starting levels, but I noticed that two characters that were made in chapters after mine (Khroom and Tessa) start at lvl 1. Is this intentional or should they be set higher?

Also I was very disappointed that the default rtp title screen was being used, so I quick made a new one. It's nothing special, and someone should make a better one if you're ambitious, but lets not keep using the RTP one.

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/BrokenChain_zps8f959ff6.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/BrokenChain_zps8f959ff6.png.html)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/sryyxhad/BrokenChain2_zps3e24cbc2.png) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/sryyxhad/media/BrokenChain2_zps3e24cbc2.png.html)

Not sure if we're calling it Wrath of Gaia or Charas Chain Game, so I just made a title for each.


EDIT: The game is officially passed on to Zuhane now :) So if anyone thinks of a critical fix (lvls off or game stopping bugs), just pass it along to him.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 26, 2013, 01:34:53 AM
but I noticed that two characters that were made in chapters after mine (Khroom and Tessa) start at lvl 1. Is this intentional or should they be set higher?

Oh, Fish didn't tell you to fix those two?

Khroom should start at lvl 4, with the club, sexy cuirass and tin foil hat. Tessa at lvl 6, ordinary bolts, snuggy, tin foil hat and bling.

Also, I just assumed that the title screen was something we would do later. Kinda how the facesets were cats and chickens when I got my turn.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on August 26, 2013, 06:56:49 AM
Maybe both? Charas Chain Game: Wrath of Gaia.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on August 26, 2013, 07:52:53 AM
Great stuff! Just PM me a link whenever and I'll get to work!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 26, 2013, 11:30:12 AM
Great stuff! Just PM me a link whenever and I'll get to work!

I thought I PMed you the link last night. Let me know if you don't have it and I'll figure something else out. Can you make the changes Prpl pointed out for Khroom and Tessa when you get the game as well?


Quote
Also, I just assumed that the title screen was something we would do later. Kinda how the facesets were cats and chickens when I got my turn.

Yeah.. Think of this one as the chicken or cat faceset, and the RTP one as a pile of dog crap that needed to be cleaned asap :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on August 26, 2013, 12:06:40 PM
No worries, DB. I'm gonna try and play through tonight and tomorrow, then I'll get started on it! Cannot wait for this!

EDIT: I've just read my PMs. No worries at all. I'll fix the fore mentioned bugs and then get cracking on my part!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on August 26, 2013, 12:44:38 PM
Shouldn't this

be this

?

He speaks truthfully.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 26, 2013, 12:48:43 PM
Maybe both? Charas Chain Game: Wrath of Gaia.

Yeah just move the wrath of gaia stuff into the other corner and it should be ace.

Like this perhaps:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/35ku4cz.png)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 26, 2013, 10:20:08 PM
He speaks truthfully.

But then we would have to edit our rainbow... I instead put your as chapter ? so I didn't have to break the order.

Yeah just move the wrath of gaia stuff into the other corner and it should be ace.

Like this perhaps:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/35ku4cz.png)

Nice, I like that!

So I cheated and played through a bunch of the game before it was actually completed. I tried to set the bars high during chapter 1, but holy **** guys, I think every chapter I played thus far surpassed mine. There's a few glitches and issues that we should fix, but overall I think the game thus far is great.

Edit: I just got an idea as well. It would be possible for us to make bug fixes and enhance our own chapters without needing other people to do the work (or waiting for us to get the game again). As long as the enhancements are just map/event related, we can simply edit the maps, and pass the updated maps to the current editor, who can just paste them over the old outdated maps. Adding graphics is doable, but would require the editor to physically import them. Database changes would not be ideal as it would overwrite any changes the current person has done.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 27, 2013, 11:26:49 PM
Heh heh. Glad to see this is still going and you guys used my little name. I did that cause I have like three Charas Chain Game Files and
But then we would have to edit our rainbow... I instead put your as chapter ? so I didn't have to break the order.

Nice, I like that!

So I cheated and played through a bunch of the game before it was actually completed. I tried to set the bars high during chapter 1, but holy **** guys, I think every chapter I played thus far surpassed mine. There's a few glitches and issues that we should fix, but overall I think the game thus far is great.

Edit: I just got an idea as well. It would be possible for us to make bug fixes and enhance our own chapters without needing other people to do the work (or waiting for us to get the game again). As long as the enhancements are just map/event related, we can simply edit the maps, and pass the updated maps to the current editor, who can just paste them over the old outdated maps. Adding graphics is doable, but would require the editor to physically import them. Database changes would not be ideal as it would overwrite any changes the current person has done.
the one thing that anoys me is NONE HAVE A FREAKING NAME besides the word Charas Chain Game. So
I figured I'd just spruce that up by saying Wrath of Gaia so it didn't just look so dull and I could tell it from the other two. ^_^

As for working on our chapters and copying and pasting maps. I like the idea, but will it work? I've played around with copying a map and pasting it from a different file to another file. Though I must admit I tried it with different games entirely...The only
thing I can see being a problem is if we use different imported charas and tile sets. Cause even if we post the map the charasets will still have to be imported into the main game other wise it leads to missing files and those are bad
in RPG maker. I've had to nearly scrap a game just cause it was missing on charaset and I deleted it from the game and my PC. Several times. < <;
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 27, 2013, 11:36:03 PM
Yeah like I said using new resources and such wouldn't work, but making event and map based enhancements with existing graphics/chipsets will work. As long as no changes are needed with the database or graphics, copying and pasting a map to a new project will work just fine. The only issue would be using existing switches and variables, so you have to make sure you don't use any new ones as well.

For example, Fish I just finished playing through your chapter and I noticed a few bugs. In order to leave the pub you require the chapter variable to be 16 or less, where it should be 16 or more. There's also another issue where the wizard will immediately say fly you fools instead of giving you the quest. Bugs like these can be fixed without changing any graphics or using any new events/variables, and can be easily sent to the next person.

Personally I'm trying to to see if there are sufficient graphics to create a TES system for chapter 1, that way I can make the battle more interesting without taking time away from anyone else.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 28, 2013, 10:01:42 AM
Personally I'm trying to to see if there are sufficient graphics to create a TES system for chapter 1, that way I can make the battle more interesting without taking time away from anyone else.

Or you could do like me and simply have black crystals represent all the monsters.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on August 28, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Yeah like I said using new resources and such wouldn't work, but making event and map based enhancements with existing graphics/chipsets will work. As long as no changes are needed with the database or graphics, copying and pasting a map to a new project will work just fine. The only issue would be using existing switches and variables, so you have to make sure you don't use any new ones as well.

For example, Fish I just finished playing through your chapter and I noticed a few bugs. In order to leave the pub you require the chapter variable to be 16 or less, where it should be 16 or more. There's also another issue where the wizard will immediately say fly you fools instead of giving you the quest. Bugs like these can be fixed without changing any graphics or using any new events/variables, and can be easily sent to the next person.

Personally I'm trying to to see if there are sufficient graphics to create a TES system for chapter 1, that way I can make the battle more interesting without taking time away from anyone else.

Oh you are kidding me!! XD I I thought I fixed those two before I sent it!! Arrggh! I'll go give it a quick change over. Hmm I suppose I could aslo add all the scene ad the end instead of just that lame scene where they all face the camera and talk like cheesy cartoon characters XD Heck I could even remove Jazel as planned unless nobody minded her addition? Heck I can even edit her so her battle poses make more sense with the the Prpl Battlers. Ah and I think I'll still fill the pubb with the sprite sheets I have. I can always send them to people since I plan on displaying them in my gallery soon enough...<.< Not that anybody visits anymore since I stopped making Charas action figures.

Or you could do like me and simply have black crystals represent all the monsters.

I think that'd be fracking great! Heck I almost wish I had thought that in Warped. Though to be fair you can't do with every monster...But I do have to admit leaves some mystery to the encounters you normally don't get with other TES.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: SaiKar on August 28, 2013, 04:21:34 PM
I like the symbolism of the chain being broken. Very meta.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 04, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
So, how is it going Zuhane?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 06, 2013, 11:24:18 AM
I'm not gonna lie, Purp. I'm still stuck on your chapter :p The difficulty is absolutely insane at the moment. I can barely afford to use an inn, let alone
upgrade or anything! I might cheat through the remaining chapters just to get mine completed.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 06, 2013, 11:53:45 AM
I'm not gonna lie, Purp. I'm still stuck on your chapter :p The difficulty is absolutely insane at the moment. I can barely afford to use an inn, let alone
upgrade or anything! I might cheat through the remaining chapters just to get mine completed.

Yeah that's what I had to do in order to get through. I recommend making god items and giving them to the party members so that the exp/levels will be at an approximate accurate level for your chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 06, 2013, 12:55:02 PM
Seems like a good idea. The game itself overall is brilliant, but there's some serious balance issues going on at the moment!
It seems more economic to not fight at all and dodge all the enemies :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 06, 2013, 02:15:06 PM
Well, there is an inn you can use to the north, free and stuff. But yeah, I think I've apologized for my difficult encounters several times in this thread already. I just kinda make them like that, abuse skills and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on September 06, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
You're having issues with Prpl's area? I only had one. Gathering the stuff for the bomb. Other than that it was my favorite and I got through it very easily. Moose's was the one that I nearly went insane on and had to cheet through
XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 07, 2013, 05:42:28 AM
When you reference my chapter being a pain, I imagine you're referencing the end section? Rather than the battles?  I thought the battles were very balanced, unless I was over trained maybe.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 07, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
We have life-off! Finished the chapters and I've pretty much completed my intro. Now time for some crazy game mechanics!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on September 07, 2013, 02:18:52 PM
When you reference my chapter being a pain, I imagine you're referencing the end section? Rather than the battles?  I thought the battles were very balanced, unless I was over trained maybe.

Yeah I was. Your battles were awesome, but that second part where the Lurker goes round and round super fast I couldn't seem to get past. @_@ He was too fast. Instead of modifying him in case I was missing something I just
made a sort of back door teleportation event that let me bypass the level entirely so I could get on with getting to Prpl's.

We have life-off! Finished the chapters and I've pretty much completed my intro. Now time for some crazy game mechanics!

Excellent. Just don't get over confident. I rescaled my chapter twice till I had hardly but a tiny bit of codding to do I thought...and forgot that bugs take time to fix. I put allot of work into it and STILL fell behind AND had bugs I missed.
Be patient and don't worry but above all do not get complacent and you should be done on time and be happy with it. ^_^ Also keep in mind due to DB's ideas we can fix maps and NPCs dialogues so I advise you to just focus on making
sure it's all running right and smooth out any dialogue errors afterword. Oh speaking of that corrected those errors you told me about DB and even had time to add in some better NPC convos. Still hate that my my shop areas aren't as a good as the Pubb,
but eh it'll still be fun. I want to correct some things in my mini platformer thing but I need to change some code and import some pics... < < Not sure if it's worth it or not. After all it's near impossible to die in that mini game, Mostly
it's filler so I don't have to add another dungeon anyway and as that it works...Still would like to add a life bar and a hero swinging the staff for fun though. Not to mention a Rupee counter that pays out either medals or gold.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 07, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
I can get gold and Prp got silver on that so I know it's not impossible : p Puzzle solving, careful thinking and quick reflexes! Know when to take your time and when to leg it!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 08, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Yeah that mini game is like the best thing so far. Made me so angry, but then I felt great for completing it, but then I wanted to get gold. But I never did.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on September 08, 2013, 12:28:08 PM
Well I may give it another try now that I'm frustrated with working on Warped and not quite having the the desire to work, but oddly being able to code like a pro after working on that chan game for so long...But I don't enjoy
what I'm doing! O_o Weirdest feeling ever.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 10, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
I'm having this absolutely bizarre error. My character appears invisible on my chapter and you can't do anything to
see him. There's no parallel processes, the code adds the character and just nothing! I wonder if it's a bug rm2k3
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 10, 2013, 06:57:21 PM
I don't think it would be a bug in rm2k3. A bug this big would most likely be known by now. Are you sure that there aren't any common events being called that would effect this? Also, what methods have you tried to make the character visible? It could be something as simple as setting the graphic for the wrong character.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 10, 2013, 08:13:58 PM
And this sounds stupid, but hero transparency is opaque right?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 11, 2013, 01:18:13 AM
Only thing I can think of is that either a change sprite association got a transparent box checked or there's some common /parallel event flashing at the hero over and over. Or you know, it's checked in the database.

Oh wait, completely invisible? Now that's interesting. When did this issue first appear? 'cuz I only know that I usually give the hero the charset of background to make them invisible during cut scenes and such.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 11, 2013, 09:50:58 AM
Well, he was completely visible the whole time I was testing my chapter. Out of curiosity, I zapped the game from chapter
5's end to my chapter, and that's when it happens. Hero's not opaque, no common events running, none on the map, his
graphic is set, and I've even added little map events to make him appear for a test, but he just stays invisible. This is bizarre.

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 12, 2013, 06:14:37 AM
If you "zap" from any other part of the game to your chapter, does this happen as well?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 13, 2013, 10:38:01 AM
Nope, just seems to be the end of chapter 5 leading onto it. It's really halting progress, you know, with not
being able to see myself and all :P
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 15, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
Okay so I got an idea, if you open up a shop window. What characters lack graphics in that screen?

Figured that it might have something to do with who's in lead or stuff like that.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on September 16, 2013, 02:08:34 PM
Wait, wait, waaaait! I think I may know what's wrong. Everybody but me used a "blank" chara set to make the hero disappear. I used Hero transparency....The Hero Opaque event is on the next map after my intro. Okay here's what you do. Either play my chapter and create a back door after the map "Tiger's DO fly" or use the Opaquer on a new map. Savvy?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 17, 2013, 10:46:54 AM
Holy balls, fisherson, you fixed it! You lovely, great man, you! This was driving me into a pit of insanity!
Progress is good, so I'll have my chapter finished up soon! :D
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 17, 2013, 01:51:21 PM
And this sounds stupid, but hero transparency is opaque right?
Dude... No-one listens to poor Moosetroop.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 17, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
Dude... No-one listens to poor Moosetroop.

I'm blind and stupid. Sorry haha!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on September 18, 2013, 09:23:42 PM
Holy balls, fisherson, you fixed it! You lovely, great man, you! This was driving me into a pit of insanity!
Progress is good, so I'll have my chapter finished up soon! :D

XD Glad to be of service!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 23, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
So how's the chapter coming along?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on September 24, 2013, 06:44:52 PM
Yes we demand progress, Zhuhane! Or else...Ninjas. >.< Ninja owls in fact! Ninja owls on sterioids who eat ninjas for breakfast and then spit them out! @u@....Now somebody go rustle up some of them so we can properly
motivate Zhu-hah-nay.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on September 25, 2013, 05:26:08 AM
Yes we demand progress, Zhuhane! Or else...Ninjas. >.< Ninja owls in fact! Ninja owls on sterioids who eat ninjas for breakfast and then spit them out! @u@....Now somebody go rustle up some of them so we can properly
motivate Zhu-hah-nay.

That physically hurt.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Archem on September 25, 2013, 03:39:02 PM
I felt it, too.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 26, 2013, 02:13:30 AM
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on September 29, 2013, 07:29:25 PM
Er I'm A.D.D. so I'm having a hard time figuring out if I did something bad or not. Did I? o.O It was just meant to be fun.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 29, 2013, 11:50:23 PM
We were just messing with ya.

The real question is what the status of the game is -_-
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on September 30, 2013, 02:49:59 AM
It was just meant to be fun.

That's the problem, it wasn't.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on September 30, 2013, 07:54:44 AM
Sorry guys!! My internet's been down and it's the usual excuse (lots of work, family stuff, etc) - when would you like it done? Give me a strict
deadline and I'll get it finished. There's not an awful lot, but it should suffice somewhat a bit kind of slightly hopefully maybe.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 30, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
Oh, y'know. Finish it by Friday. That's the deadline. No longer than Friday.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 30, 2013, 12:08:51 PM
I agree with that. Is Bluhman ready?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on October 01, 2013, 08:50:52 AM
Friday is fine! Sorry for taking the absolute piss, but hopefully it's gonna be worth it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 05, 2013, 12:48:18 AM
So it's Friday night. I don't think there's a single person who worked on this game thus far that wished they had a little more time to work on their chapter, but the chain must move on. Is the game at a point where you can pass it on to the next person? If not, just fix the critical issues that prevent your chapter from being playable and pass it on.

Good luck and godspeed.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 05, 2013, 04:11:52 AM
Yeah. Basically, if you don't post here today saying you've uploaded it, I'm going to put a curse on you that makes your crops wither.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 05, 2013, 05:58:20 AM
So who's next?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 05, 2013, 02:22:38 PM
Looks like Bluhman, but I haven't seen him recently..
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on October 05, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
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Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on October 06, 2013, 11:14:23 AM
I'm so awfully sorry :( Life basically just took over and hasn't given me much of a chance to actually
do much for this game. Sorry to keep people waiting, but it wouldn't be in a finished state if I passed it on.
Think I maybe got a little too over-ambitious as usual. I'll happily do some testing and tweaks further down the
line as a way of... repenting... I guess?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 06, 2013, 05:13:15 PM
Aww, really? 

: (
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on October 07, 2013, 12:38:48 PM
If opportunity presents itself, I'll make mine a bonus chapter at the end, as it seems a shame to throw away the work that I did.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 07, 2013, 12:53:03 PM
What, does this mean that you can't finish the chapter and we need to pass it to Bluhman prematurely? :(
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 07, 2013, 03:21:01 PM
Friday was the deadline we gave him : p

Having said that, how long will it take you to finish the chapter? I was looking forward to whatever zaniness you were concocting.  Bear in mind that you have already had the crop withering curse placed upon you.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 07, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
Just make it end, like, at the point you are currently. Make up an ending and shove it on.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on October 08, 2013, 07:08:50 AM
How about handing the game over to Dr.Ace (if he is still up for it) and finish the game after Bluhman? Doubt we'll find two more people to do the remaining chapters and it's really dragged out on time.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on October 08, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
I can always try to add it on at the end or something like that. It's maybe a little over-ambitious to get finished as I've already
totally blown the deadline out the water.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 08, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
Well more days have passed. I take it you're still working on it? If you're not you're a fool; you could be done by the time we make up our minds.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on October 08, 2013, 10:22:11 PM
I say we give him some more time...After all we don't even know where Bluh got to do we?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on October 09, 2013, 04:06:13 PM
How about handing the game over to Dr.Ace (if he is still up for it) and finish the game after Bluhman? Doubt we'll find two more people to do the remaining chapters and it's really dragged out on time.

I say we give him some more time...After all we don't even know where Bluh got to do we?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on October 10, 2013, 02:56:55 AM
Maybe I butchered that sentence.

What I meant was that after Bluhman have finished his chapter we send it to Dr.Ace to do the last one. The game will only be 8 chapters long, but at least it will be done.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 10, 2013, 12:28:01 PM
It's clear that Zuhane doesn't want to/think he can finish his section for whatever reason. So that being the case, give it to Bluhman.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 11, 2013, 12:16:15 PM
Well I'll pass the game along to Bluhman tomorrow morning then as I won't really be home at all today. Zuhane, if you can wrap things up tonight and have the game in a playable state, then we can pass your version to Bluhman instead, BUT you have to let me know sometime today.

As for the game going to Bluhman and then Dr.Ace, I don't think that will work very well. The game will only be 7 chapters long, and after playing through the first 5 chapters, ending it at 7 won't do the game justice. We can try to sign up people who haven't yet signed up such as Meiscool, people who had to drop out of the chain game due to time restrictions when it was their turn, or some of us could make a second chapter. I for one wouldn't mind making a second chapter if it means that we can have a full game ^^ Bluhman gets the game next, Dr.Ace said he wants to make the last chapter, so perhaps we should see if we can get 2-3 people to make chapters after Bluhman?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 11, 2013, 12:34:27 PM
The same people making more than one chapter could possibly work, and give the game a more complete feel; so that's not a bad idea if it comes down to it.  I'd be up for it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on October 11, 2013, 05:51:06 PM
Yeah, if it comes to it I can whip another chapter up.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 11, 2013, 07:01:11 PM
Okay so a week have passed since the deadline we gave Zuhane. Who's gonna send the game to Bluhman?
I suppose we'll give him and Dren a chance to finish their chapters at a later occasion.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 12, 2013, 04:19:39 AM
Fish. Unless DB has a copy.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 12, 2013, 12:06:26 PM
I just PMed Bluhman the link. Luckily everyone has been sending me a copy of the chain game in case the unfortunate or unforeseen happens.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on October 12, 2013, 03:21:55 PM
I've just begun downloading. Just from reading some of the item names DB mentioned, I'm in for something.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 12, 2013, 07:50:55 PM
Does that inlcude the changes then?
Like how Fish changed Tessa and Khroom's starting level and gear?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 12, 2013, 10:27:00 PM
It did not include the changes. I let Bluhman know what levels they should be and what gear to give them. I also told him the correct starting map/position.

I don't think any other changes were needed.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on October 13, 2013, 04:46:56 AM
Any ETA when I get to begin my chapter?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on October 13, 2013, 05:10:20 AM
NEVER...



yeah.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 13, 2013, 05:51:20 AM
Any ETA when I get to begin my chapter?

If you want the final chapter, there's no good ETA... If you want the chapter after Bluhman, then we can hope for 2 weeks.

I think it's best that we make sure we make a complete game instead of rushing an ending 3 chapters early.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on October 13, 2013, 03:19:33 PM
If you want the final chapter, there's no good ETA... If you want the chapter after Bluhman, then we can hope for 2 weeks.

I think it's best that we make sure we make a complete game instead of rushing an ending 3 chapters early.

I still want the final chapter, and I can easily end the game in a single chapter. Either way, if you guys prefer to have 10 chapters I'll guess I'll wait. Maybe I can start around Christmas.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on October 18, 2013, 12:50:34 AM
Well, he was completely visible the whole time I was testing my chapter. Out of curiosity, I zapped the game from chapter
5's end to my chapter, and that's when it happens. Hero's not opaque, no common events running, none on the map, his
graphic is set, and I've even added little map events to make him appear for a test, but he just stays invisible. This is bizarre.




Wait, wait, waaaait! I think I may know what's wrong. Everybody but me used a "blank" chara set to make the hero disappear. I used Hero transparency....The Hero Opaque event is on the next map after my intro. Okay here's what you do. Either play my chapter and create a back door after the map "Tiger's DO fly" or use the Opaquer on a new map. Savvy?

Fisherson, how do you so aggressively **** this up? I cannot get the character to reappear under any circumstances at the chapter's end. You're brilliant in how much the experience as a whole is pissing me off.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 18, 2013, 01:18:35 AM
It's on page two of the event commands.
"Hero sprite transparency", check the box opaque, success.

He got an even in the map "door to throne room" where he slaps some transparency on the party for the cutscenes.
So in the map after his chapter, make it opaque again.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 18, 2013, 01:36:49 PM
I still want the final chapter, and I can easily end the game in a single chapter. Either way, if you guys prefer to have 10 chapters I'll guess I'll wait. Maybe I can start around Christmas.

Any game can be ended very quickly, but it would be a big "**** you!" to everyone who worked on this to just end it abruptly as the themes and characters are still developing.



Fisherson, how do you so aggressively **** this up? I cannot get the character to reappear under any circumstances at the chapter's end. You're brilliant in how much the experience as a whole is pissing me off.

XD - At least we finally know the solution.

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on October 22, 2013, 09:05:50 AM
Can I do the next chapter if no one new shows up?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on October 22, 2013, 08:31:12 PM

Fisherson, how do you so aggressively **** this up? I cannot get the character to reappear under any circumstances at the chapter's end. You're brilliant in how much the experience as a whole is pissing me off.

I honestly don't know. T____T I sometimes wonder if I'm cut out for RPG maker....
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 23, 2013, 12:55:34 PM
Don't take it to heart fish. I get the feeling Bluhman was in an exceptionally bad mood when he wrote that :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 24, 2013, 08:48:59 PM
Can I do the next chapter if no one new shows up?

Yes sir.

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on October 25, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
Don't take it to heart fish. I get the feeling Bluhman was in an exceptionally bad mood when he wrote that :p

Probably but I must admit...I've been using the engine for like nearly ten years I think. Still haven't even managed to finish a crapy RPG. =/ Worst part is I know i have some good ideas besides just Misadventures and Warped...I just have a hard time getting motivated sometimes lately due to all the crap that keeps happening in my life. Heck even i feel my chain game chapter was a bit sub par. <_<; Granted I will go back and fix some minor things. At least tweak the ending XD That was too cornball even for me to turn into something funny, but thanks for the support anyway, MT.^_^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 25, 2013, 03:13:06 PM
Most of us have never finished a game, and I definitely have motivation issues as well, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's not like this is your job and you MUST get X, Y, and Z done by a deadline or your fired. It should just be a hobby that you enjoy doing - whether you actually finish anything or not.

Anyway Bluhman, any updates?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on October 25, 2013, 05:09:52 PM
Haven't really had time to work on it, given my current employment getting very busy around this time of year.

There also might be issues on getting back in the swing of using RPG Maker 2003, given having last used it 5-6 years ago and not remembering any of the resource websites.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 28, 2013, 06:56:58 PM
:/ Do you think you'll be able to complete the chapter though?

I was able to find most of the resources via charas or just rummaging through my old projects. Let me know if ya need any help as we need to kick some life back into the chain game.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 05, 2013, 03:10:34 AM
Any updates?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on November 05, 2013, 04:05:25 AM
Any updates?

Ooooooh, I think Bluhman needs some BURN HEAL.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 05, 2013, 08:37:27 PM
Maybe he's stuck on my escape scene bit... :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 08, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
Well this does not bode well.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 08, 2013, 03:10:11 PM
Pm him so he gets an email notice and we can get a yay or nay.

I'm ready to do a chapter anytime, can only work on weekends but I should be able to finish on one.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 08, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
I'll see if I can get ahold of Bluhman this weekend. If he can't finish his chapter, I think everyone who wants to do a second pass should, which will give us ~10 chapters.

Dr. Ace, if we all make a second pass through the game, would you want to work on the chapter after Momeka and then the final chapter when we get there, or would you rather just do the final chapter?

I'll take the chapter after Momeka or Dr. Ace as long as it doesn't fall on the week of Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 09, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
I'll take the ne%t one after that or whene%er is (on%enient Sorry so%e keys on %y bloody keyboard don't work :0
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Bluhman on November 09, 2013, 02:28:00 PM
throw it to someone else i don't even remember how to use RPGmaker.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on November 09, 2013, 02:38:32 PM
I'd rather only do the final chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on November 09, 2013, 07:18:18 PM
I haven't checked this game's progress in months, but i expected it to be done by the end of September.  Is everything going ok?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 10, 2013, 11:03:05 AM
Anyone who can send me the chapter? DB? Bluh? Fisherson?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 10, 2013, 02:28:24 PM
Anyone who can send me the chapter? DB? Bluh? Fisherson?

Done.

I haven't checked this game's progress in months, but i expected it to be done by the end of September.  Is everything going ok?

Ehh, progress is going super slow now as we've had some people spend a lot of time working on a chapter only to give up. Hopefully we can get back on track now.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on November 10, 2013, 02:56:09 PM
Ehh, progress is going super slow now as we've had some people spend a lot of time working on a chapter only to give up. Hopefully we can get back on track now.

Must've been a lot of giving up lol. 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 10, 2013, 04:53:19 PM
Done.

Did we at least send a version that have Fish's invisibility bug fixed and stuff?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 10, 2013, 06:07:43 PM
Did we at least send a version that have Fish's invisibility bug fixed and stuff?

... I don't think there is a version with all of the fixes yet. At least after passing this particular chapter on to three different people, I know all of the issues/bugs and provide a list of necessary fixes along with the download link :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 10, 2013, 08:29:35 PM
Got the game and played through most of it, just got fish chapter left. There is some great stuff in here, awesome job everyone.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 11, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
Man I'm looking forward to seeing what's happened after my bit.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 12, 2013, 05:25:34 PM
So I've played through the game now (god damn, Fisherson your chapter is hard). Found some bugs (some game breaking) along the way. Should I post them here?

Also gotten pretty far with my chapter on my first evening working on it.

(http://i.imgur.com/EV0Ej7p.png)

Edit:
Also I got a pretty weird bug where if I disable saving in one room then walk into another saving is allowed again. Anyone know what might be up with that? Otherwise I just go the lazy route and put an auto start event that disables saving in every room.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 12, 2013, 06:25:30 PM
So I've played through the game now (god damn, Fisherson your chapter is hard). Found some bugs (some game breaking) along the way. Should I post them here?

Also gotten pretty far with my chapter on my first evening working on it.

(http://i.imgur.com/EV0Ej7p.png)


Edit:
Also I got a pretty weird bug where if I disable saving in one room then walk into another saving is allowed again. Anyone know what might be up with that? Otherwise I just go the lazy route and put an auto start event that disables saving in every room.

It's a great idea to keep track of the bugs, but let's not do it in this thread. It'll be super hard to go back through all these pages and try to find all the bugs people listed when we go back and try to fix them. Instead let's keep track of all the bugs on a google spreadsheet so that we can easily see the list of open bugs and allow anyone to add new bugs to the lsit.

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtbXu5aZ9PgydDluVS1ZQU92dm5zM2lYZC1OR2ZIZXc&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtbXu5aZ9PgydDluVS1ZQU92dm5zM2lYZC1OR2ZIZXc&usp=sharing)

And the chapter is looking good! There isn't an autostart even that's enabling saving is there? For now it's probably not something worth spending a lot of time troubleshooting, so I would go the lazy way unless you can find a proper solution quickly.

Edit: I'll add the spreadsheet and some other sections to the first post once I'm done with work to make it easier to find.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 12, 2013, 06:28:18 PM
You must make all the maps have "disable save", usually work if the preset thing is "same as parent map".

And please post the game breaking bugs, as long as you don't spoil everything.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 12, 2013, 06:40:17 PM
You must make all the maps have "disable save", usually work if the preset thing is "same as parent map".

Thanks, that solved it.

I'll add the bugs to the spreadsheet tomorrow.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 13, 2013, 05:24:21 PM
About halfway done with my chapter. I'll have it finished by Friday night (maybe tomorrow if I have time to work on it).

Also DB I can't edit the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 13, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
You are the charasian we should all aspire to be :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 13, 2013, 06:37:55 PM
Whoops, you should be able to edit it now.

And Yay ^^
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 14, 2013, 05:31:37 PM
Added the bugs to the spreadsheet, also added the ones I fixed along the way in case I was sloppy and they are still there.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 15, 2013, 07:51:47 PM
Finished, uploaded and sent to DB.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 15, 2013, 09:06:33 PM
I just finished playing through it, awesome work!

I'll start on it right away.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 18, 2013, 06:44:51 PM
Well the first dungeon is complete ^^ Now just to make a heartwarming cutscene, another dungeon, and then an epic cutscene.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on November 20, 2013, 06:16:55 AM
I'm lost, what chapter is this? Who'se chapters made it in? The list in the first post doesn't really tell me what's completed and added.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on November 20, 2013, 08:41:15 AM
Well the first dungeon is complete ^^ Now just to make a heartwarming cutscene, another dungeon, and then an epic cutscene.

Sounds great, keep it up.

I'm lost, what chapter is this? Who'se chapters made it in? The list in the first post doesn't really tell me what's completed and added.

We're on chapter 7, after DB it's Moose, chapter 9 is still open and then it's your turn.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 20, 2013, 12:51:04 PM
I'm lost, what chapter is this? Who'se chapters made it in? The list in the first post doesn't really tell me what's completed and added.

Err well all of the people with numbers in front of their name are working on a chapter. The chapters that say (complete) are complete, the one that says (in progress) is in progress, and the names with an 'X' in front of them dropped out. If no one else picks up chapter 9, we'll give it to you after Moose to wrap the game up.

I'm on track to wrapping up my chapter early next week, so as long as Moose doesn't drop off the face of the earth and take months, you should have the game soon :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 20, 2013, 01:19:05 PM
I'll do my very best ;p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 20, 2013, 01:41:47 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on November 21, 2013, 09:45:58 AM
Ah, I see. I thought about it and I'd rather drop out due to time. I've got way too much work to do the coming two months than I had when I expected to do my chapter (which was early summer).
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 21, 2013, 02:33:42 PM
Will you have more free time after two months? We can always work something out so that you get the game later when you have time (getting the game to someone on time is the hard part).

If you're confident you want to drop out, then Moose, do you want to create the last chapter, or should we try recruiting someone else?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on November 21, 2013, 02:45:21 PM
At best I'd have more time after my graduation, which will most likely be february, but honestly I doubt it's the best to drag it out that long, the game is already overdue a loooong time.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 22, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
I dunno... It might be worth waiting till February. I'm honestly not sure I'm confident enough to actually end the thing. I mean I could, but I probably wouldn't do it justice.

I would sure have a blast making the final battle music though; I loved making those other bits for my section.

I guess if no-one else is available, I COULD end it. I'm just not sure I'd be the right man.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 22, 2013, 06:00:04 PM
We could try to recruit some people that dropped out or never signed up *cough*Meiscool*cough* to either end the game or to fill in time till February. Or another option, we can pass the game along among ourselves one last time to fix all the bugs and fix the balancing issues in the game. We'll need to do this eventually, there's no reason we can't do it before the last chapter is made.

Honestly, delaying the game at this point doesn't matter too much because
A) the people working on the game are most likely the only people that are looking forward to it being finished.
B) Delays mainly impact the people who will be working on the game in the future. If you're the only person left to work on it, then delaying the game so that you can work on it will mainly only impact you.

I'm trying to wrap up a lot of loose ends in my chapter and setting the game up for an ending in case Moose does make the last chapter. Unfortunately this means I'll be taking a few extra days to add a few scenes.

Quote
I guess if no-one else is available, I COULD end it. I'm just not sure I'd be the right man.

Not with that attitude! I have faith that you will make a great ending to the game if it comes down to that :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 23, 2013, 02:41:44 AM
I suppose I could have another go at the game if no one else wants to. It's getting close to the end of the semester though so that's an issue.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on November 24, 2013, 03:13:52 AM
Seriously guys, don't delay it with the idea "it's already delayed", that's a horrible reasoning for it. You should really just decide on who does the ending and finish it or it's a project that keeps going on forever.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on December 01, 2013, 06:24:51 AM
Any updates?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 01, 2013, 06:36:02 PM
Well I thought I would have time during the days last week to work on the game while I was on vacation visiting family, but I was swamped 24/7 the whole time. I'm back now though and I can resume. I finished making all the maps, now I just need to add the cut scenes. I'll post updates as they come, but it shouldn't take too much longer for me to finish.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on December 06, 2013, 11:25:22 PM
I wish I could take another chapter. Heck I'd love to clean up mine and add the propper ending, but I fear if I did I'd end up keeping it waaay too long. ^_^; So I'm just going to put this out there....Whoever finishes can have any amount of sprites for as long as I member of charas. Heck you can even bug me after I've gone all bald on top like Yoda! Just don't let this project die!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 10, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
Haha so funny story... So it turns out I made all my editions with the version of the game that didn't have chapter 6. I've copied all the maps I made to the correct version of the game, but I need to update all of the events/teleports and database stuff. I should have it finished and uploaded tomorrow, but I may need to leave some stuff out just to make sure I don't hold on to it any longer.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:29 PM
It's cool; I trust you to get it done. I'm ready when you are, but I'm pretty sure I'm likely to take longer than a week myself : p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 11, 2013, 03:29:04 AM
No worries, I've been terrible hypocritical getting my chapters done in a week even though I set the rules saying each person should only take a week >.< But at this point I think it'd be best if people spent a bit more time creating a good finale rather than rushing it to get something out in a week.

On the bright side, we're almost there! Soon enough all of our hard effort will pay off and we'll have an awesome completed game on our hands.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on December 12, 2013, 07:28:50 PM
Do we have any ideas on what the Finale should be? Personaly I always found the first Charas Chain Game to be lacking in the ending since eveyrone FREAKING DIED! Then after they continue on the afterlife they are still dead! Heartbreaking. You'd at least think we'd get a clossing scrawl or something...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 13, 2013, 01:51:19 AM
Do we have any ideas on what the Finale should be? Personaly I always found the first Charas Chain Game to be lacking in the ending since eveyrone FREAKING DIED! Then after they continue on the afterlife they are still dead! Heartbreaking. You'd at least think we'd get a clossing scrawl or something...

Well I'm setting up for a finale (should be done tomorrow!). Thus far the party is not dead, a few things are wrapped up, and the game could probably logically end in a chapter but could also go on for several chapters if needed. All in all, I'd say its going to be epic.
As for 'what' the finale should be, I can't tell you what's happened thus far for spoiler reasons, and it's kind of up to the person making the finale to decide how it should be. (I would love for at least some of the characters to not die though :p)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on December 13, 2013, 07:46:47 AM
Can't wait to play the full version. Are we going to do a bugfix pass afterwards?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 13, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
Can't wait to play the full version. Are we going to do a bugfix pass afterwards?

We really should. Once the last chapter is made, let's pass it around to everyone, but at the same time, one person should start on the bug fixes. Some are really bad >.<
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 13, 2013, 04:12:20 PM
We really should. Once the last chapter is made, let's pass it around to everyone, but at the same time, one person should start on the bug fixes. Some are really bad >.<

We probably need to list all the problems people had playing the game
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 13, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
We probably need to list all the problems people had playing the game


We have one :) We just made it starting last chapter, so the list is pretty empty thus far, but anyone can go in and add problems and bugs.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtbXu5aZ9PgydDluVS1ZQU92dm5zM2lYZC1OR2ZIZXc&usp=sharing
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on December 16, 2013, 10:09:33 PM
We really should. Once the last chapter is made, let's pass it around to everyone, but at the same time, one person should start on the bug fixes. Some are really bad >.<

Yeah I know. Alot of mine were. >_- Found that out yesterday when I was just playing with it. Ugh so many mistakes!! Not to mention enemies who don't "touch" and encounter like they were programmed to. Stupid Elephants!! XO I shall use your ivory for my new TV stand!

I'd prefer to just fix mine but I suppose I can go back and log some. *Shrugs* Though honestly if I had time I'd take another chapter and fix mine. Stupid winter always has me running around crazy trying to keep up.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 17, 2013, 01:47:36 AM
Yay I have some good news for everyone! I finally finished Chapter 7! I'll pass it on to you Moose as soon as I get it uploaded.

Since I was supposed to get this done last month, Prpl, do you think you'll have time to work on the last chapter after Moose? Otherwise Moose, I did wrap up a lot of stuff (but added some big stuff as well), all in all I think the game can end well in one chapter if that's how we want to do it. Otherwise if anyone else has any suggestions on how to handle it, let us know!

Yeah I know. Alot of mine were. >_- Found that out yesterday when I was just playing with it. Ugh so many mistakes!! Not to mention enemies who don't "touch" and encounter like they were programmed to. Stupid Elephants!! XO I shall use your ivory for my new TV stand!

I'd prefer to just fix mine but I suppose I can go back and log some. *Shrugs* Though honestly if I had time I'd take another chapter and fix mine. Stupid winter always has me running around crazy trying to keep up.

I have a feeling I may have a lot in my new chapter as well >_< Don't worry about going and fixing anyone else's. But if you come across any bugs while playing through the game, it helps to write them down, especially if they're big ones, because it's probable that no one else knows about it/remembers it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 17, 2013, 03:23:44 PM
Alright, what the hell is with Tessa's booty? It completely freezes the game >_> Aaaaargh! Plus it seems to use a variable that I used for my bit so that'll screw it up even if it works.

I might go through and try to fix all the spelling mistakes too :p

Other than that, making progress, in that I have the game and I've started playing through it again.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on December 17, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
Would be great if you added the bugs you find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtbXu5aZ9PgydDluVS1ZQU92dm5zM2lYZC1OR2ZIZXc&usp=sharing
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 17, 2013, 10:31:48 PM
Love prpl's bit, although the monsters are crazily hard. I'm determined to win the tournament.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 18, 2013, 02:28:04 AM
Sure DB, I could probably do the last one. I have the holiday now up till the 8th of January before stuff starts happening again.

Alright, what the hell is with Tessa's booty? It completely freezes the game >_> Aaaaargh! Plus it seems to use a variable that I used for my bit so that'll screw it up even if it works.

That's odd. It used to be an unnamed variable and an unused common event. Which is... Really odd. Is it when you give crap to her to increase the booty or when you steal or something?

Love prpl's bit, although the monsters are crazily hard. I'm determined to win the tournament.

Yeah, I know. Also, it's foreshadowed, but you can't actually beat the tournament. The final battle is programmed to make you lose no matter what.

Also, I find it interesting that there was a problem with the tileset in my chapters. Someone changed it after I sent it. 'cuz everything works just fine in my version. And I can't find anything that would upset the booty event so far. Whenever I search the project (Even FIsh's) the variable booty is only used in the common event and the maps of my chapater. Same goes for the switch called "increase booty"
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 18, 2013, 02:39:52 AM
Yeah, I know. Also, it's foreshadowed, but you can't actually beat the tournament. The final battle is programmed to make you lose no matter what.

I wish I would have known that before trying to beat Tessa 10 times in a row and losing every single time...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on December 18, 2013, 03:14:54 AM
Also, I find it interesting that there was a problem with the tileset in my chapters. Someone changed it after I sent it. 'cuz everything works just fine in my version.

Yeah, figured. Just hope I didn't mess up someone else chapter when I changed it.

And I can't find anything that would upset the booty event so far. Whenever I search the project (Even FIsh's) the variable booty is only used in the common event and the maps of my chapater. Same goes for the switch called "increase booty"

There should be a guard at the entrance to the city in chapter one that calls the event. No idea when it was added but it was there when I got my chapter. But if he doesn't have a purpose I guess we could just delete him.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 18, 2013, 03:21:02 AM
Oh yes... The guards... Funny story about the guards and citizens of chapter 1, I was gonna do something interesting where whenever you talked to them, they would say one of a hundred random messages pertaining to their class. I had called a common event (I never call them in order) to handle all the messages. I ended up scrapping the idea, but it looks like I missed some of the guards that used the early version of it...

So yes, erase that guard from existence!


And (guilty again), I did reuse your tile sets (the ones from your last dungeon), I didn't think I made any changes to the actual tilesets, but if there's a problem... whoops :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 18, 2013, 04:24:20 PM
Prpl, did you increase the 'chapter progress' var one too few times? Or have I missed something?

EDIT: Oh I get it! You have to re-enter the cave after you get the items if you got them after you defeat the boss.

EDIT: On Fish's bit now. Prpl, on reflection, your section was absolutely awesome. Your bit might be awesome Fish but it has so many bugs I may never find out XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on December 18, 2013, 06:13:05 PM
Yay I have some good news for everyone! I finally finished Chapter 7! I'll pass it on to you Moose as soon as I get it uploaded.

Since I was supposed to get this done last month, Prpl, do you think you'll have time to work on the last chapter after Moose? Otherwise Moose, I did wrap up a lot of stuff (but added some big stuff as well), all in all I think the game can end well in one chapter if that's how we want to do it. Otherwise if anyone else has any suggestions on how to handle it, let us know!

I have a feeling I may have a lot in my new chapter as well >_< Don't worry about going and fixing anyone else's. But if you come across any bugs while playing through the game, it helps to write them down, especially if they're big ones, because it's probable that no one else knows about it/remembers it.

Alright then I'll work on finding and fixing all my own bugs. It'll require a quick cheat and play, but eh why not? XD I love this chain game. X3 Has potential to be the best one ever.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 18, 2013, 06:40:09 PM

EDIT: Oh I get it! You have to re-enter the cave after you get the items if you got them after you defeat the boss.

Yeah, I should probably have said something about that in the game...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on December 22, 2013, 06:13:57 AM
I know it's Christmas and all so you probably got your hands full with other stuff. But how far have you gotten? Finished playing through the game or have you gotten stuck on a chapter?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 23, 2013, 07:47:10 PM
I'm on DB's chapter.  Gotten fairly far through it.  I'm trying to play a bit every day but there are a lot of things on over christmas. Fish's bomb bit absolutely killed me XD I'll keep you all updated so even if I take a while at least you'll know where I am.  EDIT: Finished DB's (hapter; ni(e one: the la(k of balan(e is horrible but that's not your fault; we'll sort that out afterwards; I'|\/| gonna get on now but I'll need to find a usb keyboard if I want to write substantial dialogue or press enter :_:  Oh |\/|o|\/|eka I forgot to say your bit was as aweso|\/|e as e%pe(ted; I replayed it after I finished to find all the se(rets; is there a soul on the entire le\/el or do you ha\/e to ha\/e one sa\/ed fro|\/| (hapter 2?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 24, 2013, 09:43:03 AM
Oh a(tually I need to know: Is this going to be the last bit or not? DB's set it up so it (an be but it (an easily not be
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on December 24, 2013, 11:41:57 PM
Yeah my chapter is horribly balanced, I wanted to wrap it up before I went on vacation, so I made all the enemies and items really quickly and didn't get a chance to actually give them a legit test.

I think Prpl is doing the last chapter now, so just as long as he still has time and wants to do it, it's his.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 25, 2013, 08:24:32 AM
I can do the final chapter in case you don't make this this one the final chapter. Either way works fine for me. I have a pretty smooth schedule until like January 20th.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on December 26, 2013, 06:12:56 PM
Finished DB's

Sweet!

is there a soul on the entire le\/el or do you ha\/e to ha\/e one sa\/ed fro|\/| (hapter 2?

You have to carry it over. Probably going to change so there is a soul in a secret room during the bugfix run. And make the ending a bit harder it's kinda anti-climatic at the moment. (Shouldn't take longer than a day)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 27, 2013, 10:23:27 AM
I have a usb keyboard so work can properly begin - sorry about the delay, though christmas was always going to make it difficult anyway.  I'm not going to make this the last chapter, but give the game a bit more of an open world feel, so the player feels they have a bit of freedom on the run up to the final section.  We could all shove sidequests and stuff into this section later if we feel like it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on January 03, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
Hey Moose, hows the chapter coming along? Or did the holidays suck all the time and life out of you like they did for me? :p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 04, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
Yeah they really made it hard to work on it. It's coming along, ish.  I was shown up bad by prpl's effort making monsters and stuff so I'm trying to do more of that myself.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on January 07, 2014, 11:24:05 PM
Yeah they really made it hard to work on it. It's coming along, ish.  I was shown up bad by prpl's effort making monsters and stuff so I'm trying to do more of that myself.

Purps did make some amazing monsters and even improved the basic TES with a randomizer for the encounters. It was very awesome. I never even theorized such a thing could be done.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 08, 2014, 02:22:41 AM
Purps did make some amazing monsters and even improved the basic TES with a randomizer for the encounters. It was very awesome. I never even theorized such a thing could be done.

Keep in mind that it could've been a lot fancier. Most of the time I make sure that all the monster group IDs for an area are adjacent to each other and then just set a variable to a random value between those values (say, monster group #34-38). Then have the enemy encounter command simply play the group equal to the value of the variable. Also, this makes it possible to still have back attacks and such without too much codes.
So first we randomize the monster group, roll to see if it's a normal encounter or something else. 3(or whatever) branches with identical enemy encounter commands but the battle formation different. And it's done, easy just copy paste to the other maps as well. Just change the range of the variable randomizer (aka, the ID of the monster groups).

But... I also tend to leave a lot (a lot) of room in the database for additional monster groups, 'cuz otherwise I just come up with new ideas and have to make lots of exceptions in the code.

Edit: I have no idea why I wrote that.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 14, 2014, 11:38:13 AM
So yeah, not to be that guy. But how is the game coming along?

I started making some more monsters last night since it's about a week before school becomes serious and stuff again. Not a clue if they will fit or not, since I have no idea where the story is going. But it was what you could expect of the end game, dragons and giants.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 14, 2014, 04:54:53 PM
No problem, you can be that guy : p

I wish I'd finished it by now but I haven't; it's really hard to find time but I have been working on it. could be in good shape by sunday night, so I'll try and have most of it done by then.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 19, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
I'm being that guy again here.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 20, 2014, 01:30:19 PM
:p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on January 22, 2014, 07:34:06 PM
:p

So you're saying you're finished???

I think I took over a month for my last chapter, so I can't complain at all haha. Do you have an ETA of when you think it will be done?

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 25, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Yeah, I'm very nearly done; I've just had this illness that's completely drained me of energy for projects like this. There's a little event making and the music to make; the maps are done. I can send it to you now as proof if you like.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on January 25, 2014, 10:35:36 AM
I'm excited to see what you guys have done!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on January 25, 2014, 05:25:45 PM
Yeah, I'm very nearly done; I've just had this illness that's completely drained me of energy for projects like this. There's a little event making and the music to make; the maps are done. I can send it to you now as proof if you like.

No need to send me anything. It's great to hear that it's coming along though! :)

I'm excited to see what you guys have done!

I'm super excited for this project as well!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on February 01, 2014, 08:09:15 PM
So, how are things going?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 04, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
*poke-attack*
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 11, 2014, 02:42:27 AM
Seriously Mooseman, are you working on this or should I finish up the rest of the chapter for you?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on February 12, 2014, 03:37:53 PM
Okay quick! Somebody take a drone over and see if Moose has been kidnapped by ninjas.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 12, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
Poop. I didn't reply because I kept being so close to finishing that I thought I should just wait and post when I was done. I'll post it tonight if I can get it finished but it won't have music : (
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 12, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
Don't worry about the music, it's time to move on.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 13, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
Right; done. It's got some missing stuff and all but one piece of music is missing :(  I really had to rush the end.

This has really taken it out of me :( I had no idea how little time I had XD I've really felt awful about leaving you waiting this long.

Having said that, there's some things about my part I like and I think if whoever's next puts in my music as I give it to them it could be kinda fun.

Who's next?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on February 13, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
Sweet. I think purple is up next if he still have time for it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 13, 2014, 06:03:45 PM
Yeah I'm next, although it's like a month later than anticipated. Will try to get this done rather quick to prevent everything else from interfering.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on February 13, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
Yeah I'm next, although it's like a month later than anticipated. Will try to get this done rather quick to prevent everything else from interfering.

Yes! Are we really in the home stretch? That's just freaking awesome!

Having said that, there's some things about my part I like and I think if whoever's next puts in my music as I give it to them it could be kinda fun.

I say you wait till we get back to editing it and do it up real nice. We are still doing that right? Cause I want to edit my ending to be less...campy XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on February 13, 2014, 11:38:03 PM
Haha yeah we need to go back and do some editing, but let's make sure to hand out the game to everyone once purple is done so people have a chance to see what we have and play through it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 14, 2014, 05:24:49 AM
I got the game and playing through it once more. I had to reset the starting equipment of characters again since they all had Alex's breastplate equip (or so), so Fish, could you tell me what your two characters should have equipped at the start of the chapter?

Also, I removed the call event commands from those guards and NPCs in DB's chapter. I made the same error as everyone else and had to restart before the dragon boss (oops)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on February 14, 2014, 10:04:35 PM
I got the game and playing through it once more. I had to reset the starting equipment of characters again since they all had Alex's breastplate equip (or so), so Fish, could you tell me what your two characters should have equipped at the start of the chapter?

Also, I removed the call event commands from those guards and NPCs in DB's chapter. I made the same error as everyone else and had to restart before the dragon boss (oops)

Schomps should have an Speedo for his armor XD I had originally thought to make it so he could only equip them to give him some balance since he's a big heavy hitter with decent spells to boot....In fact I may need to fix some of his Stone Knuckles to be a little less accurate on the models that can hit three times in row. ^^; Jazel should have a Sexy Curias I think...I never made her a set of signiture armor since she WAS supposed to leave at the end of the chapter XD But then I saw how bad that Jack's party needed a healer and support mage so I kept her, fully intending to do some implied sexyness then her run off with the Key....Alas I took too long editing and finishing the touches on the last battle and Tower Side Scroller mini game and she became a party member. ^^; By the way did anyone ever edit her set to match the others? Cause I can do that while I've got some time making side quests for my current project and I don't mind. Heck maybe I should make her a more custom sprite in general or a brand new battler? Her battle set isn't exactly the best...
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 15, 2014, 05:12:11 AM
Alright, what about weapons? Also, I'm just gonna guess that they weren't supposed to start at lvl 19 either.

No, the battlechar is still the one made by immortal dreamer or something.

Also, my chapter is really hard. If the randomizer gives you one of the harder groups it's a 5minute battle. First battle I got into was 2x flubbi warriors with 600hp each. So I've decreased the hp of most of the forest monsters, also increased the gold reward and decreased the Inn cost. Although I noticed that the healing Quacker(auto regen accessory) kinda breaks the game. I'll probably make that one the reward for reaching the bronze battle in the tournament and make the berserker band the buyable accessory.

Fish, the first boss battle in your chapter is a butt. One of the monsters just spam pyrotechnics that hurts like 160-250 on my characters pretty much ever turn. Is this intentional or did you boost it too much when you gave it to one of the characters as well?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 15, 2014, 07:13:17 AM
I must admit I modified the healing quackers to give effective regen, but the regen was so effective that the battles became a bit of a breeze. (Before, the auto regen would wear off after a few turns)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on February 15, 2014, 09:28:48 PM
Alright, what about weapons? Also, I'm just gonna guess that they weren't supposed to start at lvl 19 either.

No, the battlechar is still the one made by immortal dreamer or something.

Fish, the first boss battle in your chapter is a butt. One of the monsters just spam pyrotechnics that hurts like 160-250 on my characters pretty much ever turn. Is this intentional or did you boost it too much when you gave it to one of the characters as well?

To the first: Jazel should be equiped with two Fine Daggers. Shromps should be equiped with two Clay Knuckles and their levels were five I think.

To the second: Then I shall get to work!! >=O Hoysha!

To the third: Ah yeah I did sorta give it more attack power to be able to be effective against Fara and Lancelot and to possibly knock the Dragon Queen off guard to make up for her having so many powerful attacks. ^^; Seriously I think I'll make some of her attacks more variable and only hit one person per turn. Sides Green Flames of Doom. XD I just love when that animation piles up! I suppose it needs less attack since I used a shared skill instead of making another skill for Jazel. To be fair I partially gave it to her cause she lacked many good heavy hitting skills and later it helped in crowds so i stuck with it...Hmm will have to balance it in the directer's cut won't we?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on February 16, 2014, 01:19:36 AM
Let's put it this way, I pretty much randomly assigned stats to all the enemies in the last chapter I made without even really testing (due to time constraints). I think we have a LOT of balancing to do throughout the entire game.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 16, 2014, 02:36:22 AM
Let's put it this way, I pretty much randomly assigned stats to all the enemies in the last chapter I made without even really testing (due to time constraints).

I could tell, the water nagas only had attack and 10hp.

and their levels were five I think

I'm gonna set it to 8. That was the level of Yara(but not Jack) when I got there. And it feels like the player is going to need the more powerful characters.

The exp curve of Jack and Khroom were different from the other characters (because I copied Jack when I made Khroom) so they were falling behind in levels. I evened it out a bit. Should I make it the same as everyone else?

Also, I've put a lot of stuff into our spreadsheet btw, although it might be a bit nitpicky
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 16, 2014, 04:43:38 AM
Okay, the playthrough is done. Great job everyone! Gonna do some planning and then get started.

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on February 16, 2014, 05:25:44 AM
Since you're making the last chapter, feel free to adjust the leveling curves and such, we'll need to do it eventually anyway. And it's great that you're adding things to the spreadsheet! Trust me, no matter how well you program things, there will always be some bugs initially, and it's always good to track them so they can be fixed. In this case, we all rushed, so there are a **** ton of bugs. Though hopefully, if we track all the bugs, we can fix em all and have the final version bug free.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 16, 2014, 03:17:20 PM
So I'm kinda creating stuff right now and giving the players more skills. For starters I made Yara an actual jump command, that, y'know. Works like it used to. Also added some backgrounds for chapter 7 and fixed some misc stuff.

DB, do you want me to send you a "nude" orca in case you want to make some new monster sprites for the chapter? Or should I add that to the list of things I should do if I get the time?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on February 17, 2014, 01:33:34 PM
Well I can't have you fixing ALL my issues, so you should send me the orca and I'll work on making some unique monsters for that chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 22, 2014, 08:32:53 AM
Game is coming along nicely, although I spend too much time on graphics than I should. Change party system is working now (although I pretty much just used what DB made for his chapter.
This is the issue however, I'll be moving sometime next week, so I might take a bit longer than anticipated. I hope you can hold on a bit longer. So to finish this in a decent time I might skip a lot of quality dialogue and cutscenes for other stuff just to make sure that there is playable content rather than flashiness.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on February 22, 2014, 09:39:15 AM
I'd vote for taking the time you need and make a good ending for it. The game is already waaay over it's deadline anyway.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 22, 2014, 12:45:57 PM
Yeah, sorry about that >_> ...

I agree; take your time.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on February 22, 2014, 12:54:17 PM
Well it isn't your fault. More or less every one have gone over their time.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on February 23, 2014, 09:20:36 PM
Well it isn't your fault. More or less every one have gone over their time.

Yep. Hey personally I see it as a blessing when somebody goes over time and they manage to add more to the chapter rather than not getting to add anything cause they had no time to be near the PC. I tried to do that with my over time I couldn't escape when I couldn't get a ride to the library.  Take your time, although I'd email what you have as a back up file so DB will have it just in case something happens and you can't acess the internet for a while. If worse comes to worse he can always try to finish what you started if you're gone for too long that way.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on February 24, 2014, 04:08:44 PM
Yeah, especially since you're working on the last chapter, feel free to take your time. I don't think anyone would rather have an extremely rushed ending.

Take your time, although I'd email what you have as a back up file so DB will have it just in case something happens and you can't acess the internet for a while. If worse comes to worse he can always try to finish what you started if you're gone for too long that way.

If that happens, I'll play the role of a great product manager and delegate the work to someone else :p

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 04, 2014, 02:44:36 AM
Oh right, update.

So progress this past week has been a bit so and so. It's moving forward but not at the pace I would like to. Got access to the apartment and been fixing it up and transferring stuff from here to there, also stashing away all my Legos for future generations. I'll send DB a copy by friday or so, 'cuz that's when I'll actually move in probably.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on March 05, 2014, 11:35:56 AM
By now the game should be renamed Charas Forever.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 05, 2014, 01:32:48 PM
Haha perhaps. At this point I'm a little shocked that the game actually looks like it's about to be finished.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 06, 2014, 02:41:54 AM
By now the game should be renamed Charas Forever.

Totally, although it haven't been 10 years... yet.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 07, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
So tomorrow is the day when I'm finally gonna move the computer and stuff. I sent a link to the current state of the chaingame to DB a minute ago so you have it in case the "no internet"-ninjas strike
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on March 08, 2014, 01:37:41 PM
So tomorrow is the day when I'm finally gonna move the computer and stuff. I sent a link to the current state of the chaingame to DB a minute ago so you have it in case the "no internet"-ninjas strike

=O You stole my ninja joke! T_T That was all the originality I had left! Noooooo- *Dissolves into a puddle of goop*

Also glad to hear you took my sugestion and the game is safe!...Till the ninjas strike again. <.< *Insert ninja-like danger music and eyes loking left and right while wearing a black hood*
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 09, 2014, 05:36:44 AM
And everything is moved and internet is working perfectly. Haven't tried how well it can perform yet though. But it's working and I'm here.
Gonna continue with the game in a day or two.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on March 11, 2014, 10:14:06 PM
Awesome! Score one for the Charasians and not the ninja- *Is hit by many kunai and shuriken*

In all seriousness glad to hear you're moved in and ready to work! ^_^ I'm super exicted to see how the game's changed and gotten, hopefully, better. Not to mention how the end will tie up all the craziness! XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on March 18, 2014, 08:26:43 AM
How's it going? Gotten started again?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 18, 2014, 08:58:33 AM
Yes progress is slow though, been having some more serious workload from the university so I'm kinda stuck at making puzzles. Just handed it in today though so I should be able to get more effort into it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 18, 2014, 11:32:33 AM
Yes progress is slow though, been having some more serious workload from the university so I'm kinda stuck at making puzzles. Just handed it in today though so I should be able to get more effort into it.

Just as long as you finish before May 8th. Our goal should be to finish this 10 week project in under one year.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 25, 2014, 06:48:59 AM
Just wanted to tell you guys that I'm pretty much just trying to make a cool ending scene and balancing the final boss battle(s) a little.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: evmaster on March 25, 2014, 06:53:08 AM
This sounds interesting. How is this project going along today and is it too late for anyone to enter? Any other info I should know about this?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 25, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
Oh it's a bit too late to enter I'm afraid. I'm finishing the final chapter right now so... Yeah.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 25, 2014, 03:27:40 PM
Oh it's a bit too late to enter I'm afraid. I'm finishing the final chapter right now so... Yeah.

Speaking of which, how is the last chapter coming along?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on March 25, 2014, 10:47:52 PM
This sounds interesting. How is this project going along today and is it too late for anyone to enter? Any other info I should know about this?

Too late to enter, furry dude, but never fear! Always the right time to wait and play. ^_^ Wrath of Gaia is gonna be even better than the first Chain Game. I garuntee it, and the first Chain Game is my all time favorite RPG made on RPG maker 2003! ;)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 27, 2014, 05:22:37 AM
Heh, Funny story. I didn't test play the game until now and I noticed a couple of issues that I probably should fix before claiming it to be complete.
Also, I kinda played a bunch of Diablo these last two days instead of working on the game. But It should be done by the end of the week if everything goes according to plan.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 30, 2014, 05:01:15 AM
Okay so it's the end of the week and I've wrapped it up like I said I would.

But um, what's the plan now? Do I send it to each one to make any last changes / sidequests they want to make? Or do I send it to everyone to let them play it but we make changes in chronological chapter order.
Like, everyone gets the game and plays through it > DB starts making his adjustments for chapter 1. Then DB sends the "directors cut" version to Mom who makes his changes and he sends it to the next one and so on.
Or do we just say that the game is finished like that?

Anyway, I'm sending it to DB now. You guys go ahead and discuss.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on March 30, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
I'm all about releasing it and be done with it. But I say it depends on how buggy/unbalanced it is, would suck if we released it and it wasn't playable.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 30, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
I think everyone deserves to get a copy of the game at this point :) Perhaps balancing should be done by only one or two people so there is some consistency with difficulty, but as for now, I think it would be best if each person who wants to tweak their chapter gets a go at it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 30, 2014, 01:05:38 PM
Alright, so chaingames for everyone involved. I'll send the link

Also, remember to add stuff to the spreadsheet on page 1.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on March 31, 2014, 03:46:21 AM
Right, I got the game. I'll play it as soon I can.

If we're going to do a pass on the game then I can take one. There is a few minor changes I want to do to chapter 6 (and maybe a sidequest, that sounds like fun). Should max take 2 days but can probably finish it in one, depending on when my turn is. 
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 31, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
Also, could you guys write down what level the party is at the end of chapter 7,8 and 9? Might be good to know.

Also 2, DB could you change the first post to say that it's complete and stuff?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 02, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
Sorry, I've been really busy but I'm excited to see how you've finished things off! And yes in the final cut I'll need to add my music.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on April 02, 2014, 03:06:28 PM
Also 2, DB could you change the first post to say that it's complete and stuff?

Done! Do you guys think we should post the link to the current game in the first post or should we wait a bit?

Also, I'm going to be really busy with work until the 18th, so I can't really work on the game until then. Does anyone else want to start tidying things up?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 02, 2014, 05:08:49 PM
Let's not post the link now; wait until after the tidy up. No-one's going to play the game twice.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 02, 2014, 05:34:53 PM
Yeah, wait with the link until we consider it complete.

Also, I say let Momeka go first. I don't really have a lot to add and he seemed hyped to do it.

Also, who added that thing to the spreadsheet about the F Route 2 Tessa event blocking the path? Are you going the wrong way or what's up? 'Cuz the Tessa event blocks the player from leaving without activating the cut scene further into the glade.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 03, 2014, 12:43:14 AM
Also, I say let Momeka go first. I don't really have a lot to add and he seemed hyped to do it.

Sure, I can go first. I've soon finished the game, I'm on chapter 9.

Also, who added that thing to the spreadsheet about the F Route 2 Tessa event blocking the path? Are you going the wrong way or what's up? 'Cuz the Tessa event blocks the player from leaving without activating the cut scene further into the glade.

I did. [spoiler]All right, I replayed the bit and I think I know what the bug was. I captured the panda in the middle of the map and didn't chase him up to the top which caused the event to block my way up to the temple. I captured the panda by using that map piece you jump over then just ran down to him.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 03, 2014, 01:12:09 AM
I did. [spoiler]All right, I replayed the bit and I think I know what the bug was. I captured the panda in the middle of the map and didn't chase him up to the top which caused the event to block my way up to the temple. I captured the panda by using that map piece you jump over then just ran down to him.[/spoiler]

Well that was something I didn't predict. No wonder you got stuck. I'll need to remember to add an event that makes the panda escape when standing on corner 10 as well.
Scratch that, the problem is that the event simply don't activate as you land on it from the jumping. So I'll have to copy paste the move event 3 times to make sure that whenever you move from that spot, the panda escapes as intended.
Nope, that wasn't good as well. Having the move commands appear earlier makes the panda get stuck.
What ultimately fixed the problem was moving the "jumping ledge" 1 tile up and the other event (final panda move) as well. I'll just have to remember that 'till I can fix it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 03, 2014, 01:49:18 AM
Upload it and send me a new link and I can work from that one if you want.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 03, 2014, 06:40:34 AM
Or maybe you could just move the event 1 tile up and the terrain to match it probably goes faster. Seems like a bit of a hassle to update for a minor change like that. It's not really gamebreaking I suppose.

I'll post this picture.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2eba460.png)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 04, 2014, 03:22:39 AM
Sorry, 'bout that double post. But here is a template for character weapons. In case anyone wants to add some for the characters that don't really follow the traditional animation pattern. Note that Jack and Kyruto both uses normal weapons. Jazel throws her so it's actually more of a projectile for her. And Shomps, well he don't have a single weapon graphic in the game as far as I know.

Gonna make some for the 2 "super secret special" weapons myself.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/11rd3id.png)(http://i60.tinypic.com/be91g6.png)

Okay, I changed Shomp's battle pose to make it actually fit a fist weapon. And then I made some simple fist weapons for him.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2qukpzk.png)(http://i62.tinypic.com/2vvq8lg.png)

Know what? send me the game when you're done with your fixes and I'll update the battle graphics a bit. seems smarter than getting other people to add it along the way. I also realized that most characters keep their weapons in front of them, so you can't just add weapons (right hand weapons appear behind the battle sprite) so I'll have to put some more work into it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 04, 2014, 07:29:32 AM
Or maybe you could just move the event 1 tile up and the terrain to match it probably goes faster. Seems like a bit of a hassle to update for a minor change like that. It's not really gamebreaking I suppose.

Oh yeah I can do that, it's easy to fix. Didn't read through you whole explanation before  :dry:

Know what? send me the game when you're done with your fixes and I'll update the battle graphics a bit. seems smarter than getting other people to add it along the way. I also realized that most characters keep their weapons in front of them, so you can't just add weapons (right hand weapons appear behind the battle sprite) so I'll have to put some more work into it.

Sure, gonna try to play through the last bit tonight.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 05, 2014, 11:34:05 AM
Double posting, but oh well.

Finished with the changes to my chapters. The biggest ones are a new secret room in chapter 6 were Kyruto can learn a spell and made the last area of chapter 6 a tad harder. Other then that I spiced up the cutscenes a bit and changed some minor things on the maps and dialogues in chapter 2 and 6.

Going to try my hand at a side quest then I'll ship everything of to purple (will probably be tomorrow).
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 05, 2014, 03:35:58 PM
That's great, I'm nearly done with all the attack and weapon graphics.

Who wants the game after I spice that stuff up?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on April 05, 2014, 09:15:59 PM
How long will it take you to spice it up? I'll have time to work on it in two weeks or so, but if you'll be done sooner than that, someone else should get it first.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 06, 2014, 01:30:26 AM
It will probably take about 15 minutes for me to spice it up, I already made all the graphics I need so far. Question is just if there's anything else I should fix for my chapters. Or the sidequests I made. Maybe the super armour / weapons need a longer quest chain

Edit:
Realized (thanks to the spreadsheet) that I accidentally removed an event in the map after the scorched pyre. I'll fix that as well.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 06, 2014, 08:39:55 AM
There done and I've sent it to purple.

My side quest didn't turn that much into a side quest, it's more just a dungeon on the world map that you can enter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 06, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
Okay, my weapon and battlechar fixes are done.

Who's next?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 08, 2014, 01:10:05 PM
I'll put in my music now; once I remember how to deal with rar files.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 10, 2014, 06:36:41 PM
Kewl I have opened the thing. Shouldn't be long: just a few music files and a sidequest I suppose. I'll try and get most of it done tomorrow after work.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 11, 2014, 01:32:58 AM
No rush. DB didn't want it until a week from now and I think Fish is stuck in whatever troublesome weather condition that is plaguing the states at the moment.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on April 11, 2014, 01:54:36 AM
No rush. DB didn't want it until a week from now and I think Fish is stuck in whatever troublesome weather condition that is plaguing you at the moment.

Yeah take as much time as you want. I'll know Monday if I can convince another team at work to help me upgrade their product or if I'll have to do all their work myself. If they do end up helping out, I can probably start working on the game Monday, but most likely I'll be spending all week upgrading their product for them... In any case, I'm not too happy with my current two chapters in the game, so my changes will probably take a week. I have a small amount of graphics, NPCs, and possible a few tiny scenes to add.

Though unless anyone else thinks they can make their changes in a couple of days, you might as well send it to me so I can start as soon as I'm able.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 12, 2014, 05:34:32 PM
Music's made and in; I can't play the last bit though due to a subscript out of range error...?  Could that be due to me copying over a save file so I didn't have to redo the whole thing?

Also, do you guys wanna have a chat about what's in (skype or whatever) so I get an idea of what to do sidequest wise?  Did you do something for the moose antlers, for instance?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 12, 2014, 06:27:15 PM
Both antler pieces are used for ultimate weapons . The sidequest is started at the airship > cabin, then the weaponshop in Ökken. Feel free to add to it though.

And, no you can't copy the save file since I added the vehicle starting position to the world map after that point in thgame. That thing gets screwed.

My skype is Fredolfus
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 13, 2014, 02:56:33 PM
Music's made and in; I can't play the last bit though due to a subscript out of range error...?  Could that be due to me copying over a save file so I didn't have to redo the whole thing?

Oh yeah, I got the same error when I played. Forgot to put it up in the document. For some reason I got it to work by going into the scene and reset the teleport and vehicle position to the same they were before.

Also moose did you play the game from the beginning? If so, how was the new final area of chapter six? Frustratingly hard, nailed it on the first try or anything between?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 18, 2014, 01:27:17 AM
So, how is progress?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 21, 2014, 05:50:29 AM
Sorry guys I was unexpectedly without internet for a few days.

Momeka your additions were lovely; I get really excited playing your stuff. I didn't think it was too hard.

Prpl I can't believe how much work you put in 0_o It's blown my mind!

The game's so long now (and I played it without cheating at all so I had to do grinding occasionally) that I took ages to finish it. I still haven't, actually.

I sort of fixed the subscript out of range bug... It's completely weird so I had to make it so you have to press the space bar once when the screen's hidden. There's a few bits of fish's where you have to do that anyway.

I tweaked a few items and skills a little - the sword quedemeth gives you was too weak, and the same with Momeka's spell.

I'm absolutely enchanted by all the cool stuff and I've done as many sidequests as I had time for.

Unfortunately I haven't managed to add a sidequest. Honestly I've been playing the thing a few hours a day just to get through it...  I noticed Tessa's sidequest's not done; shopuld I do that or did someone have plans? Also if you re-enter a part of my desert stuff played again so I've fixed that...

I've added some stuff (the desert's a bit bigger) so I'll continue with the additions until you guys reply.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 21, 2014, 12:22:08 PM
I think you can keep going for awhile longer if you want.

Also did you play the wizard tomb and how much did it lag on your computer? I think I might have overkilled it a bit. It lags a little for me when the traps fire at the same time in the second room. If it's not that bad I'll probably won't bother fixing it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Relux the Relux on April 21, 2014, 01:12:51 PM
Sorry for posting here, but I did read that this is your third chains game and got very curious about the previous 2.

But I couldn't find any link to these, could anyone should me then where could I download those?

P.S. looking forward to this one here.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 21, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
That's great, keep at it though. DB haven't replied yet about wanting the game and Fish still seem plagued by that thing.
Are you sure Tessas sidequest don't work? it did last time I checked.

Also, did you feel that the obsidian sword was too weak? The girafig blade got 50 attack and the obsidian 85, seemed like a reasonable jump. It's the 3rd strongest sword I think. Also, you can find another Obsidian sword in a chest later so it's not unique.
Ugh, I ramble so much sometimes. Maybe you could create a new item that you can get or something? Something that fits as a reward for that. Something that actually is stronger.  I just threw in a reward to be honest.

And Relux, here's a link to nr2: https://app.box.com/s/ufnld9bvw9jvuq1ca2t9, Don't think anyone have the first one around.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on April 21, 2014, 07:08:17 PM
Yeah take as much time as you need. I'm ready for the game whenever now, but I'm in no hurry. It's really exciting to read about all stuff being added :)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 25, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
Uncertain who got the game at the moment. But I accidentally made another sidequest that I'd like to put into the game at some point.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 26, 2014, 01:00:19 PM
Yeah I've got it. I'll give you what I've got today since life keeps me pretty busy :/  Also, I tried to fix your azure scale sidequest, but I still think it's a bit broken.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 26, 2014, 02:39:51 PM
Yeah I've got it. I'll give you what I've got today since life keeps me pretty busy :/  Also, I tried to fix your azure scale sidequest, but I still think it's a bit broken.

Oh, what's broken about it?

Oh, nevermind, the page saying "sapphire scale story less than 3" is probably the problem right? Needs to be moved to prevent it from overlapping the previous pages. I never really tried it without finishing the Azure scale quest in chapter 4.

Also, I put the change battle BGM in the wrong place on the last page. So after fighting that boss, the battle music will remain the music I used for bosses.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on April 26, 2014, 04:50:55 PM
So, are you guys done yet?


*says the guy who tottally dropped the ball on his chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 26, 2014, 06:16:48 PM
Game is done but now wer'e putting in additional contents and making some fixes - like my abovementioned **** ups.

I added my stuff to Moose's fixes and sent the game to DB.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on April 27, 2014, 09:32:35 PM
Awesome, I have the game and started playing through it. I have a fair amount of changes I want to my two chapters, but hopefully it won't take too long.

Here's the list of things I'm working on:
- Removing random encounters in chapter 1 and replacing them with enemies on the map.
- Adding in save points in chapter 1 and removing the ability to save anywhere.
- Expanding some of the rushed scenes in chapter 7.
- Balancing enemies in chapter 7.
- Replacing monster graphics in chapter 7 with more unique ones.
- Making Zaddamal a bit more lively by adding in more NPCs and a short and simple side quest.
- Bug fixes.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 28, 2014, 01:27:20 AM
- Making Zaddamal a bit more lively by adding in more NPCs and a short and simple side quest.

That sounds pretty good, especially if you mean the second version of it.

Also, you don't have to add savepoints if you don't want to.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 28, 2014, 03:21:37 AM
If you add savepoints to chapter 1 we should probably add them in chapter 2 and 3 as well so it doesn't become a weird gap in the middle of everything.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on April 28, 2014, 11:49:58 PM
That sounds pretty good, especially if you mean the second version of it.

Also, you don't have to add savepoints if you don't want to.

There's a second version of it?!?! I haven't gotten that far :p I'll probably add characters to both. Perhaps if you help out characters in chapter 1, they'll give you goodies or something in later chapters.

If you add savepoints to chapter 1 we should probably add them in chapter 2 and 3 as well so it doesn't become a weird gap in the middle of everything.

I think it's kind of odd to be able to save anywhere and then switching to save points, so unless anyone has objections, I'll just do it for all the chapters that don't have save points.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 29, 2014, 02:31:11 AM
When you add one in chapter 2 use the save point graphic from chapter 6. And I think one would be enough in the central hub area where all the guys are hanging around (add it somewhere close to the white robed guy).

And we should either fix that Bakamon mini game (if Kyouto isn't the main the hero graphics will be in the middle of the bakamon screen) on the save points so it works everywhere or remove it from the list. And remove the change party options until you can actually change your party.
I never checked later in the game but did anyone actually add the party change mechanic to the save points?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 29, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
I removed the bagmon option from the save points from chapter 8 and forward, and added change party options to the save point in chapter 8 and forward that are located at Inns or otherwise central places.

Not sure if the bagmon option was there for chapter 5-7

I should have some prototype save point in Airship Cabin, and Zaddamal 2

edit:
Oh right, the save points have 2 pages, so the ones in chapter 7 etc will probably have the bagmon minigame because the variable "chapter progress" is too high at the moment?
What I mean to say is, if we delete the second page of the savepoints after chapter 4, we should avoid the bagmon minigame and the following kyruto sprite glitch. But not in chapter 8 or 9, those are already fixed with the party change instead.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on April 29, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
Bagmon makes so much more sense than Bakamon.
I removed the mini game completely for chapter 6, but the glitched version of it was there in chapter 7.

Also anyone seen Fish around lately?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 29, 2014, 06:35:57 PM
Heard from him some time ago and he hadn't been able to download the game. I kinda remember him being on a dial up or something. Not sure what else it was though.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 01, 2014, 09:54:58 AM
Oh, well. Should we fix the bugs in his chapter or should we just leave it as it is?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 01, 2014, 11:38:48 AM
Oh, well. Should we fix the bugs in his chapter or should we just leave it as it is?

I can try to fix bugs in his chapter as I'm making my changes.

So progress for me is going fairly slow. I did remove all the random encounters from chapter 1 and replaced them with enemies on the map. Plus I added save points to all of the chapters that didn't have them (and removed the ability to save anywhere). The continuity is much better now :) After I made those changes, I started actually playing through the game which is what I'm working on now. I still have a long way to go :)

After I play through it, I'll tweak some events and such in my chapters, but I don't have any plans that are too crazy, so they shouldn't be that time consuming.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 02, 2014, 03:57:35 AM
Hey if you have the time, could you change some variables for me in Deserted city 1 > Deserted City W, W2 and Deserted City N?

In the respawn event in the bottom left corner, (EV0005) there are two "temp set random" if you could, change the second one (temp set rnd, 1-3) to 1-2 instead. Noticed that it gets a bit frustrating if you get an unlucky strike.

I'd do it myself, but I fear that I will just squeeze yet another thing into the project if I get the opportunity.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 02, 2014, 12:09:34 PM
Hey if you have the time, could you change some variables for me in Deserted city 1 > Deserted City W, W2 and Deserted City N?

In the respawn event in the bottom left corner, (EV0005) there are two "temp set random" if you could, change the second one (temp set rnd, 1-3) to 1-2 instead. Noticed that it gets a bit frustrating if you get an unlucky strike.

I'd do it myself, but I fear that I will just squeeze yet another thing into the project if I get the opportunity.

Haha sure no worries, I can take care of that.

BTW, How do you guys want to handle balancing? For example, the monsters in Chapter 4 are much more difficult than the monsters in Chapter 3, but don't really even give any more XP. It may be too chaotic for us to only balance the enemies in our own chapters, so should we designate one person to be in charge of tweaking all the battles in the game?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 02, 2014, 12:50:00 PM
Are they still too difficult?
I thought I solved that when I made chapter 9.

Okay let's blame it on this- Chapter 3 lacks an Inn, so you can't sufficiently grind there, but you can in chapter 4. So I totally made that as an anti-grind measure.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 02, 2014, 07:45:11 PM
Are they still too difficult?
I thought I solved that when I made chapter 9.

Okay let's blame it on this- Chapter 3 lacks an Inn, so you can't sufficiently grind there, but you can in chapter 4. So I totally made that as an anti-grind measure.

I wouldn't say too difficult, but perhaps too long. Kyruto does about 40 - 50 damage per spell and Khroom does 30 - 40 with a normal attack. When a lot of the enemies in the forest have 600 (or more) hp, the battles just take a long time especially when there's three enemies and no way to attack multiple enemies at once. They take even longer since the agility of the monsters is pretty high, so the heroes' ATB bar charges really slowly and the enemies usually get in 2 attacks for each of of the heroes. It may be best to lower the HP and agility and raise attack and intellect. That way the battles will remain just as difficult, but they won't drag on forever.

That was just one example, but there are a lot of inconsistencies with battle difficulty from chapter to chapter.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 03, 2014, 01:55:41 AM
You have a point there, I think I always intended those battles to be fought with all three characters. So we're gonna have to reduce the hp of the chapter 4 enemies.
What other chapters did you have in mind? I know that chapter 5 could use some balancing as well.
Also, I'm guessing Kyruto won't be on such a high level when you reach that point(chapter 4) now if you removed the random encounters from your chapter. I always ended up in chapter 4 around lvl 6-8 in my playthroughs because I have this OCD about not escaping combat.

Know what, send me the game and I'll add some more elemental weaknesses on the enemies in chapter 4 and mellow their stats a bit.

Also, did you play through the entire thing yet? I think I managed to get a good level of challenge on the enemies in the last chapter.

edit: No, don't send the game to me, I just came up with something I wanted to add to the game. And we don't need that. So down the hp as you suggested, that will work swell.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 08, 2014, 02:13:35 AM
Happy birthday Chain game!
One year since we started this project, go us!

Also, the irony of this:
The rules are simply work on the game for a week and create a new chapter, take the story and game absolutely anywhere you want (it's okay to go crazy). When you're done working on it, just zip it up and pass it on to the next person.

I don't think anyone but Momeka managed to follow those simple rules.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 08, 2014, 11:38:42 AM
Rules were meant to be broken!

So my status update: I HIGHLY recommend that everyone who plans on making updates to the game to start playing through it now because it takes forever! I've been making tweaks and taking notes along the say, more updates soon.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 08, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
I should say in case it's not been brought up: Prpl's moose antler crafting is flawed; if you have piece 2 I don't think you can do the piece 1 stuff.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 08, 2014, 02:53:07 PM
I think you can do it once you hand in the antler 2 piece.

I only used "equal to" preconditions to ensure that. Or are you having a problem with it?

Clarification.
The antler piece 2 takes priority yes, but once finished there isn't a page that gets triggered.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on May 08, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
And Relux, here's a link to nr2: https://app.box.com/s/ufnld9bvw9jvuq1ca2t9, Don't think anyone have the first one around.

I got it though I made some modifacations to it for my own amusement and to add a better ending. <.< I had planned to re-release it just for people like Releux who had never enjoyed the awesomeness that it was, and for those of us who are just big fans anyway. <.< Give me till next friday and I may be able to get to the library if I finishing tunning up Neil's skill set. Seriously Zidane why didn't you take the time to make him a little more strategic? XD
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 11, 2014, 01:49:18 AM
So I finally finished playing through the entire game! Sadly I should have completed this a long time ago, but I was making notes and tweaking things along the way.

First things first, awesome job everyone! This game ****ing rocks!

@Prpl It seems most of the chapters are balanced pretty terribly. Chapters 1 and 3 (there are no monsters in 2) are okay in my opinion, but after that enemies get much more difficult compared to the characters progression. The enemies may be balanced alright, but the rewards for defeating the enemies aren't nearly good enough. What I mean by that is most of the enemies (other than chapter 9) offered too little experience points, which meant the monsters got a lot harder but the characters didn't. I ended the game with my characters around lvl 25 (with a bit of cheating). A lot of times the battles got really boring because it just took sooo long to kill an enemy, increasing the XP gain will probably help that. If the party can be level 50-ish after doing all of the side quests, then there would be a significant amount of character growth, and enemies could continue to be progressively harder. There probably needs to be a fair mount of monster stat tweaks as well.

I've made the "minimum" amount of tweaks I wanted to make. I definitely want to make more enhancements, but it looks like I won't get a chance to work on the game again till at least Thursday afternoon. If someone else wants to start enhancing their chapter(s), I can pass it to you now, but I would like the game again in a week (or whenever I can get it again) to add a few new custom graphics and add a few characters/side quests.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 11, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
I asked you not to do it. But if you feel like the character vs monster balance is a problem then let me take a look at it. I'll move around skills and when the characters learn them. Also balance chapter 4.
I'm guessing chapter 5 monsters still need to see some balancing since Fish hasn't been back to do his changes yet also?

I found that the sidequest enemies i made in chapter 8 to begin with and 9 got terribly hard if you skipped all the sidequests and yet moderately easy if you did all the sidequests. Especially if you got the Antler piece 2 and made any of those weapons. Was this just me or was it a general opinion?

Also, how many things are unresolved? Was there any problem with the antler piece quest on your end?

Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 15, 2014, 09:57:50 AM
I'm being that guy again. But you wrote this 4 days ago saying that you wanted the game back in 7 days.

Are you gonna keep it instead?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 19, 2014, 01:29:35 PM
Ahhh Sorry!!! I was gone longer than I thought.

By 'tweaking' things, I meant that I only tweaked things in my chapters, so I didn't do any balancing and what not in other chapters. Did you want it next or should I give it to someone else? I can pass it along tonight to whoever wants it.

Unfortunately I wasn't able to test out the antlers and several things related to side quests because I was trying to finish playing through it as fast as possible. I did do a fair number of side quests though, and the ones I played through were pretty sweet.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 19, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
Fish mentioned that he might have time to work on his fixes.
So when you feel that you'vr done with the stuff you wanted to fix- send a copy to everyone involved.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 20, 2014, 10:21:01 PM
Just sent the fixes to you and Fisherson, if anyone else wants this version, let me know.

I sadly didn't get nearly as much done as I wanted, but that's life. :/
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 21, 2014, 01:55:56 AM
Great, so what's left to do? Still the balancing issues?

I could probably give that a kick and send it to Fish so he don't have to put effort into that.


Also, may I fix the enemies in your chapters? You made the same thing Moose did at first, escape is not allowed from the battles.'

Did I get the right version btw? I noticed that the enemies at the start of chapter 7 are unchanged.

I did what we talked about, reduced the hp of enemies in chapter and increased the gold and xp reward. I also added some new monster graphics to the start of chapter 7 just in case you didn't have any time to do that yourself. Didn't change the overworld monsters though, I want Fish to have it as fast as possible.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on May 28, 2014, 08:18:28 AM
So are we actually going to finish this? How much is there left to tweak anyway?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 28, 2014, 11:47:32 AM
Fish got the game and is doing his fixes and a sidequest.
Not sure if DB was finished or if he wanted to add anything more, same with Moose.

I'm done and you seem to be done. So we're pretty done when Fish is finished.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 02, 2014, 01:32:03 AM
Great, so what's left to do? Still the balancing issues?

I could probably give that a kick and send it to Fish so he don't have to put effort into that.


Also, may I fix the enemies in your chapters? You made the same thing Moose did at first, escape is not allowed from the battles.'

Did I get the right version btw? I noticed that the enemies at the start of chapter 7 are unchanged.

I did what we talked about, reduced the hp of enemies in chapter and increased the gold and xp reward. I also added some new monster graphics to the start of chapter 7 just in case you didn't have any time to do that yourself. Didn't change the overworld monsters though, I want Fish to have it as fast as possible.


Hmm, I just worked on the version that Moose sent me via PM, so I'm not sure if the changes to the enemies in Chapter 7 were made or not. Do you have a version with the changes to those enemies? If so, I can take a look and see if/how they were changed, and reapply the changes if needed.

In my personal opinion, I think the game could use some balancing. All that really matters though is if the game isn't impossibly hard or annoying, so if everyone agrees they meet that requirement, then I'm fine with leaving the game balanced how it is.

And I didn't really think to test the ability to escape from enemies >.< my bad. Feel free to fix that. If you don't have time, let me know and I can make the changes myself.

Honestly, there are still so many little things I want to add to my chapters in order to make them how I originally envisioned them as. Realistically though, I don't have time to do everything I want to, so it's probably best to leave my stuff as is because done is better than perfect. So I'm happy making the game as finished when Fish is done and if Moose doesn't have any more he wants to add.

BTW, did Fish ever confirm that he got the game and started working on it?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 02, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
Fish confirmed that he got it and been working on it lately. At least he updates me from time to time on skype about it.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 03, 2014, 06:35:09 AM
Jesus Christ you guys still working on this?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 03, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
The actual game has been done for a while. But you know, additional contents, man.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 04, 2014, 02:54:33 AM
This project has really gotten out of hand. Additional content? What? For an RPG Maker game? Guys, is that really needed? This thing should've been finished in August.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on June 04, 2014, 09:47:54 AM
With it being so close to completion, I think the tidier the game is the more it can be used to show off our community.  Rm2k3 isn't really used a whole lot anymore, and to see a community still dedicated to it is cool.  It may of taken more than a year, but I'm excited to see what you guys have come up with.

Another thing that might be a good idea in the future is to use dropbox to share the game with eachother.  Just put the game in a folder, share the folder with everyone, and then when you update the game it'll automatically update for everyone else, too.  With that, just note when you are working on it in a forum topic and then when you finish so then people don't save over eachother.  This way multiple people can technically have the game at the same time.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: SaiKar on June 04, 2014, 07:47:33 PM
The funny (or the sad) part is that I don't think I even want to play it at this point because of all the complaints that certain parts are too hard / tedius / long / boring, and the various justifications of not changing them.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 05, 2014, 05:29:19 AM
The funny (or the sad) part is that I don't think I even want to play it at this point because of all the complaints that certain parts are too hard / tedius / long / boring, and the various justifications of not changing them.

Which I find funny 'cuz we have changed them.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on June 05, 2014, 07:28:45 AM
Yeah, pointing out things that doesn't work so we can fix them is all part of the development cycle. I assure there is a lot of good stuff in it, they just doesn't get mentioned as much as the bad stuff since we don't need to work on them.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 05, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
This project has really gotten out of hand. Additional content? What? For an RPG Maker game? Guys, is that really needed? This thing should've been finished in August.

You know what they call projects that release with all sorts of ignored issues? Crap. I'm not saying this game will be great, but it would really be a shame if we ignored all of the little things after we spent nearly a year creating the chapters.

The funny (or the sad) part is that I don't think I even want to play it at this point because of all the complaints that certain parts are too hard / tedius / long / boring, and the various justifications of not changing them.

I wouldn't count them as complaints, but more of developer feedback/criticism. I would be much more worried if we didn't call out potential issues as we saw them. Personally I've played through various stages of the game 5 times now, and I've become very particular with certain balancing things, so I called them out. It doesn't mean that I think it's terrible, and since it seems like people don't really share my viewpoints on those, it means they're probably not big issues.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on June 06, 2014, 03:20:31 AM
You know what they call projects that release with all sorts of ignored issues? Crap. I'm not saying this game will be great, but it would really be a shame if we ignored all of the little things after we spent nearly a year creating the chapters.

The point is it should never have taken a year to create a few RPGMaker chapters.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 06, 2014, 05:18:05 AM
You're like a broken record man. Considering the average time it takes for people to finish one of their projects I'd say that a year is pretty fast.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 08, 2014, 06:22:40 PM
You're like a broken record man. Considering the average time it takes for people to finish one of their projects I'd say that a year is pretty fast.

Heck yeah! Most of us have spent at least 5-7 years just working out all the bugs with our main projects. The fact this game, a chain game none the less, has been nearly 100% completed in one year? I'd say that's pretty inspiring! ^_^ I've just got one ot two more I's to cross and a few T's to dot and my side quests will be done. Be patient guys. Trust me this one is worth the wait. It's...heck it knocked Carpe Diem and AOA off my favorite games list.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 08, 2014, 06:36:41 PM
I don't think the delays have made it less impressive.  In an ideal world we could have stuck to the deadlines but in reality that'll never happen when people are just working casually like this.  Having said that I wouldn't take the game back until the finish now myself for fear of causing delay : p
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 13, 2014, 07:16:23 PM
I don't think the delays have made it less impressive.  In an ideal world we could have stuck to the deadlines but in reality that'll never happen when people are just working casually like this.  Having said that I wouldn't take the game back until the finish now myself for fear of causing delay : p

< <; Why to not make me more nervous. Ah I'm almost done anyway. I just gotta program in the last side quest and fix the grammar issues that were left over from my old chapter and possibly one area in my dungeon. We'll see.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on June 17, 2014, 10:21:02 AM
So any updates? How's it going? etc.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on June 17, 2014, 02:59:04 PM
Fish said that he was almost done yesterday, Working on some puzzle or room or something.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: daoman89 on June 18, 2014, 11:25:22 AM
Is it done yet? lol
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 24, 2014, 06:02:23 PM
Okay progress report! Got more than 50% of my cutscenes done, working on the last couple o=f a bosses and I need to place some monsters. Then all the work on the current chapter will be done. I just need to go back and edit some grammar that's ATROCIOUS in my previous chapter. Shouldn't take more than this week to be done. I'm estimating 3 days if all goes right then one day to test play. When it's done I'll send it to Purple to do a quick double check. After that? We can make the official release page! =D Ain't that awesome?

Oh and by the way I have a "Charas Pubb" section in the game where everyone can make a cameo, but I don't know allot of your new guys so Pm me a chara set of you and something you'd like to say as an NPC and I'll add you to the pubb! Still plenty of room, but you have to do it before I send the game to Purps.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 25, 2014, 09:15:09 PM
woot
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 26, 2014, 09:18:37 PM
Quick update. Last puzzle, last bosses/monsters. A few bugs I need to fix in the current cut scene but honestly not much more. ^_^ Almost there! Wish me luck fellas!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on June 27, 2014, 06:13:46 AM
Play through everything you made from beginning to end and make sure everything works.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on June 27, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
Play through everything you made from beginning to end and make sure everything works.

I will! I already did that twice ont he first Sidequest "The Cult of Fara". I plan to at least test play this fully once. Speaking of I may as well add a status update:

I removed 50% of a grammar errors removed from old chapter.
Fixed all cut scenes in the beginning of chapter 5. ^_^ That went way better than I expected.
Updated the TBS in Machu Pikachu from Chapter 5 so that the enemies can be ran away from. Probably won't do it for Dragonia Castle though...
Finished two cutscenes for Jazel's second side quest and have two left. One is really small though.

Need to make sure the boss is 100% ballanced and adjust some of her battle animations for her summoning attacks. Grrr...stupid global positioning. Though if I can't in a day or two? Well it'll have to stay tacky.

So yeah steadily trucking on. About to go finish that last cut scene and then it's on to placing the monsters. This is the last step I need then one quick spell check of Marduk's dialogue in chapter 5. Wish me Force! Lol

UPDATE:

Did all cut scenes but the clossing. Working the bugs out of the ones I just did. Whew....Tiring work this. Need to go back and fix some anoying monsters cause I copy and pasted them without specefying a background and it crashes when I encounter them, ugh. But all in all? Nearly there!

Further Update:

Fixed most of the bugs and have done all cut scenes and they are nearly flawless. Just gotta get the last one to operate right and teleport the heroes back to start and make sure it adds the right varibles. Pretty much done. Expect the game tomorrow, Purps or the next day at the very least barring any super glitches. ^_-

Even Further Update:

Ack. Forgot I hadn't filled in the shops...and didn't add the monsters. -  -; Well it'll be two days at the very least, but here's some good news: No bad bugs or glitches so far on the test play! =D As for the monster ballance in battle? Eh if you want it sooner I may just leave that to Purps if he doesn't mind. Haven't been able to catch him on Skype in a while.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 01, 2014, 11:00:21 PM
I apologize for the double post, but the Chain Game is FINISHED!! =O Ugh. Double play tested, there may be one or two minor misspellings...but it works 100%. ^O^ Battles also may or may not be 100% balanced. < <; Anywho sending the game to Purps tomorrow as theres lightning storms about to come over and it'd take hours with my internet anyway. ^^; But hey we did it guys!! Celebrate good times, come on~
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: DragonBlaze on July 01, 2014, 11:37:21 PM
I apologize for the double post, but the Chain Game is FINISHED!! =O Ugh. Double play tested, there may be one or two minor misspellings...but it works 100%. ^O^ Battles also may or may not be 100% balanced. < <; Anywho sending the game to Purps tomorrow as theres lightning storms about to come over and it'd take hours with my internet anyway. ^^; But hey we did it guys!! Celebrate good times, come on~

Hurrah! Congrats everyone!

Are you giving it to purple just to upload it, or is he going to do some additional stuff (in which place it's not really complete is it?). When there's a final version of the game uploaded somewhere, let me know and I can make a thread for it in the Completed Games and Demos section.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 02, 2014, 02:07:10 AM
I haven't received it yet but great work Fish.

I'm not gonna add anything, just fix a few issues I noticed during my last play through. Mostly in my own chapters.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 02, 2014, 04:07:13 AM
Woho  :w00t:
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 03, 2014, 05:52:34 AM
Well I'll be. I'd say it's a damn miracle the thing was finished at all. Good job guys!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 04, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
Hurrah! Congrats everyone!

Are you giving it to purple just to upload it, or is he going to do some additional stuff (in which place it's not really complete is it?). When there's a final version of the game uploaded somewhere, let me know and I can make a thread for it in the Completed Games and Demos section.

Tis my intnetion to give it to him. He wants to do another quick play test and fix one thing from what I understand. In the process of uploading it to a new Box account and it's on to Purps then back to you I guess?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 04, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
W00t! :) :D ;)
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: zuhane on July 04, 2014, 07:19:46 PM
I can't believe this is finally completed! If we ever do some kind of DLC, I'll happily finish off my awful chapter that was never finished.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 05, 2014, 12:00:47 AM
Ah looks like I can't upload it from my home PC. Takes too long and the connection times out. > >; It'll be monday till  can go to the library. Hang tight and stay strong, guys! It's just a minor delay.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 05, 2014, 12:59:04 PM
...

https://www.dropbox.com/ (https://www.dropbox.com/)
...

Really think this should be how you guys should do this from now on....
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 05, 2014, 02:54:36 PM
Yeah but Fish's computer can't handle dropbox, or his internet. Didn't we cover this already?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on July 05, 2014, 03:12:31 PM
Last time I brought it up no one said anything so I thought I'd bring it up again.  I'm pretty sure you don't have to download dropbox to use its web service, so Fish would still do the same thing but it would be easier for anyone else working on the project to share it.  Or at least to me it makes sense.  Whatever works works though.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 07, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
Gah. I forgot my password for the Box account and the Library's Yahoo won't update so I can get a new account! If somebody is on, please make or send me yours so I can send it to Purps! I have limited time here as my ride will be back in less than an hour.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 07, 2014, 02:34:05 PM
There are other file upload services, just google it and take one that doesn't require a log in.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 08, 2014, 12:04:33 AM
There are other file upload services, just google it and take one that doesn't require a log in.

O_O They have those? PM me some! I may be able to get a ride back to the library tomorrow before I have to go to town.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Momeka on July 16, 2014, 02:22:19 AM
Fish, you had it for several month now. When will you ship it off?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 16, 2014, 11:50:11 AM
Fish, you had it for several month now. When will you ship it off?

Sigh. I've been trying, but I've had a rough week. First I got sick, then I got better then I got stung and this time something new happened that hadn't happened before: huge swelling on my leg and I had to go to the emergency room and get a freaking shot...in the buttocks.....again. >_<; Now the person I bum rides from? Got my cold or whatever it is. My other friends live too far away to bum rides off and I can't walk that far with my leg like this. T_T I did so good, but seems my reputation followed me home...and clubbed me over the freakin' head. Ugh. Look if I can't get it there by another week...Go without my bonus chapters. They're nice and I did fix all my dialogue errors in chapter 6, but I don't want to be the cause of another Chain Game nearly dying. TT_TT
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 16, 2014, 04:29:28 PM
I just can't imagine you're unable to upload it anywhere (Google Drive? Dropbox? WeTransfer?) yet are able to post on the internet. The hell do you live and what kind of computer do you use?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 16, 2014, 11:51:49 PM
I just can't imagine you're unable to upload it anywhere (Google Drive? Dropbox? WeTransfer?) yet are able to post on the internet. The hell do you live and what kind of computer do you use?

I live in the middle of swamp nearly and my internet is bad DSL. It takes hours to try and uload it from here and when I try? Usually the computer goes into sleep mode from just sitting there in active too long. Even when I leave something running or come back every now and then and shake the mouse. -_-;
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 17, 2014, 02:58:35 AM
Then go into the settings and deactivate sleep mode while it uploads and do it in the middle of the night?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 17, 2014, 05:43:49 PM
I agree; anything in your power just to give it back in whatever state it's in.

Prpl, what state is the copy you have in, if fish's internet makes the transfer impossible?  Can that be called the finished game?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 17, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
It is a complete game yes, but some of the issues with Fish chapter will remain.

However, I think DB has the latest version? Nope I lied, I have the latest version as well.

Just need to fix some of the bugs I discovered.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Fisherson on July 24, 2014, 09:34:20 PM
Okay not promising it anything, but I'm going to try uploading the game from my phone using a Drop Box app which I just got an account for. If it works...Well Purps will tell ya. Last shot!! Lock and load. *Puts on Jedi hood and steps into be robed power armor.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 25, 2014, 02:11:02 AM
Alright, and if it fails. I'll just post a link to our other version tomorrow.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Dr. Ace on July 25, 2014, 04:10:15 AM
Okay not promising it anything, but I'm going to try uploading the game from my phone using a Drop Box app which I just got an account for. If it works...Well Purps will tell ya. Last shot!! Lock and load. *Puts on Jedi hood and steps into be robed power armor.

Wait, so you now have a phone which is better than your pc and has internet which allows it to upload?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game (Now complete!)
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 27, 2014, 09:08:38 AM
I PMd the last version to everyone involved. So the game is now officially complete, unfortunately Fish's work will not make it because of his technical and personal issues. We hope that both you and your internet connection gets well soon!

I figure that DB will be the one responsible for making a thread for this and we'll have to ask someone to make a post in the news section of the board to announce it's completeness eventually.

Well done everyone!
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 28, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
woot! I kinda feel sad about how this ended though. But thank goodness it has!

Feels like there should be some sort of afterparty.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 02, 2014, 01:57:07 AM
I'll go ahead and make a thread for this tomorrow or somesort since DB hasn't been back yet.

Did any of you guys play through it yet?
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Moosetroop11 on August 02, 2014, 02:29:00 PM
Not yet; I wanna play it through when everyone does.
Title: Re: New Charas Chain Game
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 05, 2014, 01:54:24 AM
Okay gonna post that thread soon. I did a complete playthrough just to make sure that everything is still working.
Realised that there was some fixes that I forgot to add last time such as the escape option in chapter 7. Then I found some other stuff that probably should be fixed. And that's what I've been doing these days pretty much. So hold on just a little longer and the link with the updated, updated complete version will be available.

Okay I uploaded the latest version as an update so the old link will work it should say something like "the final version" and been uploaded today, 5th of August